MSE News: Unemployment down for first time in two years

MiserlyMartin

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

I am sure whatever side of the housing debate people are, bull or bear, we can all celebrate this as exceptionally good news and hopefully a sign the tide has turned.

:j:j

I am not celebrating these fiddled Labour figures. They have all been moved off JSA to other benefits and those now in part time work have now disappeared off the total. What is there to celebrate? We have record REAL numbers out of work and house prices are still way overpriced relative to average incomes historically.

Until the massive national debt has been paid back and house prices drop considerably there is no return to normal. This is not looking like this will happen for many years to come.

Arch-Angel

MiserlyMartin wrote: »

I am not celebrating these fiddled Labour figures. They have all been moved off JSA to other benefits and those now in part time work have now disappeared off the total. What is there to celebrate? We have record REAL numbers out of work and house prices are still way overpriced relative to average incomes historically.

I think this is the worrying part; whilst reducing the levels of unemployment is always good for the economy, the worry is that the figures are being manipulated in advance of the General Election.

Expect to see the Tories producing the "correct" figures soon!

(NB - I don't know which figures will be correct. I suspect that every statistic like this pre-election will be spun by the different political parties for all it's worth).

Hunnyb22

This is the government's ploy to make the unemployment figures smaller. However, they don't include all those on training schemes. Even though they're getting around £15 a week training, they are still officially classed as unemployed as they're still receiving unemployment benefits. Anyone who refuses to go on a training course has their benefits stopped. Many are put on work placements in actual companies, only receiving the £15 a week and dole stated earlier, and they say we don't have slave labour in this country.:mad:

Asheron

This is because people have given up getting a Job, and have joined University or College.

This is BS

Asheron

By not counting those unfortunate souls who have run out of benefits!

By creating jobs out of nothing (like we create money and credit)

By using the Birth-Death Model

By not counting reductions in pay for those that are retired! known as underemployment!

By not counting job losses suffered when full-time jobs are reduced to part-time jobs!

The bogus figures we get from our government are a joke. They are laughable.

paulwf

nickj wrote: »

are we sure that these figures aren't just extra people employed over the xmas period ?

That is my concern as well. Where I work half of the Christmas temps were let go, the other half are all on part time temporary contracts now. Although better than being on JSA it barely gives them enough to live on and they can't plan beyond the next 3 months.

More and more jobs seem to be moving to part time temporary positions, we need to look beyond the headline jobless figure.