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rottweiler at school gates - opinions?

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  • puddy
    puddy Posts: 12,709 Forumite
    to answer someone's previous comment

    i didnt say call the police, i said work with the liaison officer. all schools now have a police liaison officer that often works with the school on issues around the school property and is oftens seen walking around the school at start and end times of the day. the role is to make children and parents feel safer around school.

    i dont care what breed of dog this was at the gates, or what breed of dog killed the boy in liverpool. it makes no odds whether it is designated illegal or not. ALL dogs have the propensity to damage. the dangerous dogs act is widely known to be flawed because it only focuses on 4 breeds.

    the very fact that one parent (the OP) feels uneasy walking into school past this dog, highlights that it is a nuisance. i doubt she is the only one.
    someone else posted about seeing a dog from a toddler's point of view, so if this adult feels uneasy then so will children who are not used to dogs.

    there is nothing wrong with the liaison officer being used to ask this lady to stand a little way back so that people dont have to walk so close to the dog to get in and out of the gate. simple

    its no good saying, ive got a this or that dog and she's lovely, a real softie. I dont know that, and often in the same breath the owner highlights how good a guard dog the dog is because he is so protective of his family. well thats exactly the problem for me as a stranger. he isnt going to be lovely and all slobbery with me, because i am a potential threat to his alpha owners.

    i speak as a dog owner
  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    kaya wrote: »
    you can't compare that with the op, you were entering the dogs own territory so the dog would behave differently

    Rubbish, I've chased them down streets first thing in the morning when they have been happily roaming around. Their "territory" is anywhere they think they can be in charge off.
    Or are you a dog owner that thinks it's ok to bite the delivery people, as the dog is just protecting itself, and should be allowed to bite anything it hasn't been told not to specifically.
  • kaya wrote: »
    looks like the spelling and punctuality police have hi-jacked the thread now


    not me.. i was just pointing out that if you complain about someone elses spelling then you really should spell everything correctly yourself (or you make yourself look like a prat! lol)

    hardly a hijack
  • laurz
    laurz Posts: 545 Forumite
    it wouldn't hurt to put in the school newsletter that if you bring a dog to the school to use your common sense and to be considerate of other people.

    my dog goes to the school with us. i even leave her tied to the infants gate whilst i take my son to nursery but because he gets out at the same time as the school and i know 300+ kids walking past would excite her i never take her at home time. i would be pretty upset if i was told not to take her.

    IMO it does the children good to see a responsible owner with a well behaved dog. not to mention the social benefits for the dog.
  • Every dog is different (as every owner I suppose) but over the years we've had 5 Rotties and not one of them has ever been aggressive. Yes they look the part but don't judge a book by it's cover.

    The only time I've ever been bitten it was by a miniature poodle and a friend lost part of a finger to a Jack Russell and that one was her own dog :eek:
    I let my mind wander and it never came back!
  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    Every dog is different (as every owner I suppose) but over the years we've had 5 Rotties and not one of them has ever been aggressive. Yes they look the part but don't judge a book by it's cover.

    The only time I've ever been bitten it was by a miniature poodle and a friend lost part of a finger to a Jack Russell and that one was her own dog :eek:

    That's the problem, if you don't you can't close the book again if it turns out to be a horror story. I don't trust any dog, at all, but I'd much rather be bitten by a toy poodle than a Saint Bernard.
    (Yes I know, I chose it on purpose, it's still big)
  • MrsTinks
    MrsTinks Posts: 15,238 Forumite
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    What I don't get is that all the indications from the OP is that the dog is not bouncing around the kids, it's not acting aggressively, it's not out of control - infact from the description it appears exactly the opposite is the case... The dog was loosely held - so obviously not struggling against a leash :confused: there is no mention of the dog bouncing or jumping or any incorrect behaviour. It's not snapping or even trying to lick children to check if they've washed recently...
    I recognise some people have extreem phobias - fair enough - but to start berating a seemingly responcible dog owner for picking up her child/ren with a well behaved and well trained dog... uhmmm isn't that a bit over the top? What's wrong with just asking nicely?? If she's on public land then she has as much right to be there as anyone else.
    If the dog is bouncing on the children, in their faces and growling etc then fine fair enough I would agree that the liaison officer should be involved - but there has been no indication from the OP that this is the case :confused: Now I would think if she is as phobic about large dogs as her post indicates then she would have probably mentioned that... :)
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  • bestpud
    bestpud Posts: 11,048 Forumite
    jenner wrote: »
    to answer someone's previous comment

    there is nothing wrong with the liaison officer being used to ask this lady to stand a little way back so that people dont have to walk so close to the dog to get in and out of the gate. simple

    There is nothing wrong with the OP politely asking the woman if she would move a little!

    Which would you prefer, as a dog owner?

    I know I'd feel quite hurt if someone took issue with my dog being outside the school gate and felt it more appropriate to call a liasion office than simply ask me to stand somewhere else!

    I don't stand right in the gateway btw, but it seems there are a few on here who would not have dogs around the school full stop.
  • bestpud
    bestpud Posts: 11,048 Forumite
    mikey72 wrote: »
    That's the problem, if you don't you can't close the book again if it turns out to be a horror story. I don't trust any dog, at all, but I'd much rather be bitten by a toy poodle than a Saint Bernard.
    (Yes I know, I chose it on purpose, it's still big)

    Have you ever been bitten by a small dog?

    I used to work with dogs and the worst bite I ever had was from a west highland terrier - nasty little so and so it was.

    It went mad and after almost tearing my hand/forearm to pieces, it grabbed my thumb and would not let go - my colleague had to literally prise it's jaws open while I tried to hold it still as it was trying to pull back while still holding on and was taking my skin with it!
  • maxtweenie
    maxtweenie Posts: 1,302 Forumite
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    edited 2 December 2009 at 12:27PM
    Don't you think a lot of things in life could be sorted easily if people just spoke to each other politely rather than hiding behind school liaison officers, school newsletters or the local bobby? Just because someone looks to you to be not as clever as you think you are doesn't mean they would carve their initials in your butt if you politely asked them to stand a little further from the school gates. Getting any kind of authority involved in these things seems to me to be using a sledgehammer to crack a nut. :confused:
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