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BillScarab,
:rotfl:
:beer:
I don't usually pursue these – but it's an amusing way to start the week, the sun's shining, I thank you and I'm still in holiday mood. So, just for you, BS...
sudo-engage logic.
sudo-engage sense of humour
Raising that suggestion in this sub-forum is roughly the equivalent of telling an assembly of rabid ayatollahs dressed in rags that you're considering the idea of investing in a bacon sandwich.
Where has that happened in this thread?
Were has what happened?
Read properly what it is you were commenting upon. It was a simile. I see no actual mullahs, here. (Although perhaps by now the OP has partaken of a breakfast strong on porcine ingredients.)
Nevertheless, some of Microsoft's finest do seem finally to have crawled out of the woodwork and discovered this thread. :rolleyes:
So, stick to your own faith and ignore the clamour of those who'll tell you that your life will be spiritually unfulfilled unless you wage a daily battle against malware, bloat and drivers that don't work.
Except the drivers do work and I don't know anyone who has to wage a daily battle against malware.
You need to get out more. And to read the other threads in this sub-forum.
They regard anyone who writes in structured and coherent sentences as being dangerously subversive and in need of radical re-enlightenment.
In the middle of getting to grips with the Redmond Rednecks, you'll then receive a lecture (one, if you're lucky; an entire series of them if you aren't) on the virtues of Linux from an exiled apostle whose mantra is "spelling dont matter" (sic).
Anything particularly wrong with Linux? Are you suggesting that no Linux users can spell?
Signature – BillScarab: "I've got a shelf full of books, and most of my teeth, two pairs of socks, and a door with a lock. I've got food in my belly and a License for my telly.
And nothin's gonna bring me down
Perhaps not the wisest weapon to deploy?
You get the general picture, here. :rolleyes:
No, just your view of it.
Which, of course, is the right view. :rotfl:
But it's also the objective view. :cool:
The fact of the matter is that someone such as you will love a Mac, will take to its operating system like a duck to water and will never regret leaving the sinking ship that is Windows.
So you can judge the OP's character from a post on a forum?
Sometimes. But in this case I was judging the OP's mentality, attitude and education.
You'll find that in a quiet corner of the Techie bearpit there is a small but ever-growing community of Mac users with whom you will feel at home and who will assist you gently to acclimatise to your brave new world of hassle-free, malware-free computing if you do take the plunge
You will be made to feel welcome in Leopard's cult anyway. :rolleyes:
But not by others?
All you need to do, should you harbour any doubts, is take a look through the threads on here and see with which mentality of computer fraternity you feel more at home. I'd imagine it is among those who could actually compose the word "fanboy" in the unlikely event that they would ever wish to, but have no desire whatsoever actually to do so.
If you have any lingering concerns, ask yourself whether you wish to enrust your essential computing needs to a company run by this man or by this man. Says it all, really.
Why do you keep doing this? Do you honestly think it helps your argument? All it does is make you look ridiculous.
To some extent because you have expressed publicly your disappointment when I don't.
But mainly because it's a very significant point. It would scare the hell out of me to know my computer was running on software from a company that thinks Steve Ballmer is safe to manage a chicken coop, let alone a multi billion pound global corporation. :eek:
People should think about that. I draw their attention to it. :j
Now that's sorted, the answer to your question is that yes, a Time Capsule is (in part) a storage hard drive but that many Mac users prefer the greater flexibility that comes with attaching a conventional external hard drive to an Apple Airport Extreme Base station, instead.
Finally, we get to the sensible advice.
Indeed it is. You will find the "Thanks" button just below this posting, to the right.
You'll love a MacBook Pro and you'll grow to appreciate having a computer that comes with customer service and support that's in a different league to anything you have experienced before in the world of computing.
Can't comment as I've never had to use any sort of customer service for a computer.
I have, so I can – and can also compare them. Apple's is top notch.
And, as knightstyle has already advised, the smart way into the world of Apple for the uninitiated is through its Refurbs store - as good as new, with full Apple warranty and at a very useful discount.
More helpful advice.
Quite.
You will find the "Thanks" button just below this posting, to the right.
Go for it. You'll never regret it.
One word of caution, though; don't buy an Air as your first and only Mac – they're a lean and light supplement to, not a substitute for, a fully-featured Apple laptop. Get a MacBook Pro to start with.
More sensible advice.
Indeed so.
You will find the "Thanks" button just below this posting, to the right.
OP, it sounds like an Apple machine would be fine for your needs so go and have a look at them and buy whichever you prefer. The Macbook Air is a very appealing machine but make sure it's suitable for your needs. The connectivity is more lilmited than most laptops and it has no optical drive. In some ways it's closer to being a very posh netbook than a laptop.
That's exactly what it is. A very beautiful, 13" netbook.
With one USB port, no Firewire port, no SD card slot, no ExpressCard port, a glossy screen, no Gigabit Ethernet, a netbook's CPU, hard wired RAM and a rather poor battery that's sealed inside.
Marvellous for certain undemanding tasks but impractical for many others. Hence my advice.
Must do some work now.
Don't laugh at banana republics. :rotfl:
As a result of how you voted in the last three General Elections,
you'd now be better off living in one.
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The 27 inch iMac is absolutely gorgeous; what a screen; edge to edge display albeit a very glossy one. If I could afford I would take the plunge and possibly use BootCamp to have a dual W7/Leopard OS, as I am a Windows user. And shame on Apple, when you consider the price, for not including an HDMI port. Am I in Love?
http://viiprnews.com/images/2009/10/new-apple-imacs.jpg
Oh, and even more naughty for lacking a blu-ray drive; come of it Apple! For such a lovely display and real estate?:mad:0 -
Find a Uni student and use his details to get 14% off the price in store buy the Apple Care warrantee at the same time for about £49 which will be for 3 years and will help with the resale value.
My Macbook had one pixel locked grey they replaced the screen without a problem.
Nice kit I love mine and would not go back to a MS based laptop and I work in IT ;p0 -
BillScarab,
:rotfl:
:beer:
I don't usually pursue these – but it's an amusing way to start the week, the sun's shining, I thank you and I'm still in holiday mood. So, just for you, BS...
sudo-engage logic.
sudo-engage sense of humour
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leopard
Raising that suggestion in this sub-forum is roughly the equivalent of telling an assembly of rabid ayatollahs dressed in rags that you're considering the idea of investing in a bacon sandwich.
Where has that happened in this thread?
Were has what happened?
Read properly what it is you were commenting upon. It was a simile. I see no actual mullahs, here. (Although perhaps by now the OP has partaken of a breakfast strong on porcine ingredients.)
Nevertheless, some of Microsoft's finest do seem finally to have crawled out of the woodwork and discovered this thread. :rolleyes:
Having understood your simile I was referring to what your simile referred to.
So, stick to your own faith and ignore the clamour of those who'll tell you that your life will be spiritually unfulfilled unless you wage a daily battle against malware, bloat and drivers that don't work.
Except the drivers do work and I don't know anyone who has to wage a daily battle against malware.
You need to get out more. And to read the other threads in this sub-forum.
I prefer to go on personal experience where possible.
They regard anyone who writes in structured and coherent sentences as being dangerously subversive and in need of radical re-enlightenment.
In the middle of getting to grips with the Redmond Rednecks, you'll then receive a lecture (one, if you're lucky; an entire series of them if you aren't) on the virtues of Linux from an exiled apostle whose mantra is "spelling dont matter" (sic).
Anything particularly wrong with Linux? Are you suggesting that no Linux users can spell?
Signature – BillScarab: "I've got a shelf full of books, and most of my teeth, two pairs of socks, and a door with a lock. I've got food in my belly and a License for my telly.
And nothin's gonna bring me down
Perhaps not the wisest weapon to deploy?
I wasn't deploying a weapon, I was asking a question. As for the signature, I apologise. I''ll have the Author of the website I took the lyrics from hunted down and shot.
You get the general picture, here. :rolleyes:
No, just your view of it.
Which, of course, is the right view. :rotfl:
But it's also the objective view. :cool:
In your opinion, but not everyone's.
The fact of the matter is that someone such as you will love a Mac, will take to its operating system like a duck to water and will never regret leaving the sinking ship that is Windows.
So you can judge the OP's character from a post on a forum?
Sometimes. But in this case I was judging the OP's mentality, attitude and education.
So you can judge the OP's mentality, attitude and education from a post on a forum?
You'll find that in a quiet corner of the Techie bearpit there is a small but ever-growing community of Mac users with whom you will feel at home and who will assist you gently to acclimatise to your brave new world of hassle-free, malware-free computing if you do take the plunge
You will be made to feel welcome in Leopard's cult anyway. :rolleyes:
But not by others?
I've no idea who else is in your cult.
All you need to do, should you harbour any doubts, is take a look through the threads on here and see with which mentality of computer fraternity you feel more at home. I'd imagine it is among those who could actually compose the word "fanboy" in the unlikely event that they would ever wish to, but have no desire whatsoever actually to do so.
If you have any lingering concerns, ask yourself whether you wish to enrust your essential computing needs to a company run by this man or by this man. Says it all, really.
Why do you keep doing this? Do you honestly think it helps your argument? All it does is make you look ridiculous.
To some extent because you have expressed publicly your disappointment when I don't.
But mainly because it's a very significant point. It would scare the hell out of me to know my computer was running on software from a company that thinks Steve Ballmer is safe to manage a chicken coop, let alone a multi billion pound global corporation. :eek:
People should think about that. I draw their attention to it. :j
I doubt if Steve Ballmer has much involvement in the development of the software. Out of interest are there any other companies which are headed by people who scare you?
Now that's sorted, the answer to your question is that yes, a Time Capsule is (in part) a storage hard drive but that many Mac users prefer the greater flexibility that comes with attaching a conventional external hard drive to an Apple Airport Extreme Base station, instead.
Finally, we get to the sensible advice.
Indeed it is. You will find the "Thanks" button just below this posting, to the right.
You'll love a MacBook Pro and you'll grow to appreciate having a computer that comes with customer service and support that's in a different league to anything you have experienced before in the world of computing.
Can't comment as I've never had to use any sort of customer service for a computer.
I have, so I can – and can also compare them. Apple's is top notch.
And, as knightstyle has already advised, the smart way into the world of Apple for the uninitiated is through its Refurbs store - as good as new, with full Apple warranty and at a very useful discount.
More helpful advice.
Quite.
You will find the "Thanks" button just below this posting, to the right.
Go for it. You'll never regret it.
One word of caution, though; don't buy an Air as your first and only Mac – they're a lean and light supplement to, not a substitute for, a fully-featured Apple laptop. Get a MacBook Pro to start with.
More sensible advice.
Indeed so.
You will find the "Thanks" button just below this posting, to the right.
OP, it sounds like an Apple machine would be fine for your needs so go and have a look at them and buy whichever you prefer. The Macbook Air is a very appealing machine but make sure it's suitable for your needs. The connectivity is more lilmited than most laptops and it has no optical drive. In some ways it's closer to being a very posh netbook than a laptop.
That's exactly what it is. A very beautiful, 13" netbook.
With one USB port, no Firewire port, no SD card slot, no ExpressCard port, a glossy screen, no Gigabit Ethernet, a netbook's CPU, hard wired RAM and a rather poor battery that's sealed inside.
Marvellous for certain undemanding tasks but impractical for many others. Hence my advice.
Must do some work now.
I suppose I ought to really.It's my problem, it's my problem
If I feel the need to hide
And it's my problem if I have no friends
And feel I want to die0 -
That will be customer service that consists of "we're Apple and we are always right, buy an upgrade to fix the problem"
http://www.theacsi.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=147&Itemid=155&i=Personal+Computers
http://consumerist.com/2008/11/apples-customer-service-kick-dells-!!!-empirical-evidence-shows.html
http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/04/18/apple-only-good-dell-poor-and-very-poor/
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10222213-37.html
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/17/apple-tops-pc-customer-service-rankings/And woe betide anyone how may try to derail the gravy train by that is the Apple brand by offering products at anything other than full RRP.
http://www.macrumors.com/2009/11/26/apples-black-friday-sales-2009-other-major-discounts-on-macs/
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/11/27/black_friday_mac_and_ipod_price_guides_find_the_lowest_prices.htmlDon't get me wrong they are pretty computers, but you will be paying top whack for the Mac and any accessories you buy for it. Apple to computers is like Weddings are to parents. Take any item, brand it as a Wedding item in white and you can also triple the cost, Apple are just the same in computers.
Take any premium computer, by any manufacturer at all, and configure it so it has similar specifications as a Mac. You'll see it's around the same price.0 -
Remember to allow for the additional cost of the AppleCare Protection Plan, just in case you are one of the unlucky ones.
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=2111247Originally Posted by Swipe #14
They may be Apple products but they are still made in a factory in China just like all the rest. FYI I'm on my third logic board on my late 2007 mac mini.0 -
Oh, and even more naughty for lacking a blu-ray drive; come of it Apple! For such a lovely display and real estate?:mad:
Steve Jobs described the licensing issues surrounding Blu-ray as a "bag of hurt". Apple are on the board of directors of the Blu-ray Disc Association though, so it seems likely Blu-ray will be coming at some point.
As for HDMI, that's a bit less likely. Jobs dislikes it as he feels it's "limited in resolution". Apple regard DisplayPort as being the display connector of the future (until their Light Peak technology is released, at which point it's all over).0 -
Steve Jobs described the licensing issues surrounding Blu-ray as a "bag of hurt". Apple are on the board of directors of the Blu-ray Disc Association though, so it seems likely Blu-ray will be coming at some point.
As for HDMI, that's a bit less likely. Jobs dislikes it as he feels it's "limited in resolution". Apple regard DisplayPort as being the display connector of the future (until their Light Peak technology is released, at which point it's all over).
I think everyone sees display port as the immediate future.
Light Peak looks interesting though. I quite like the idea of a connector that has a 100Gb/s throughput.It's my problem, it's my problem
If I feel the need to hide
And it's my problem if I have no friends
And feel I want to die0 -
Take any premium computer, by any manufacturer at all, and configure it so it has similar specifications as a Mac. You'll see it's around the same price.
HP Envy (not literally;)
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/hp-envy-15-notebook-15-09-2009/
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Exactly. The 15 inch Envy starts at $1,799, whereas the 15 inch MacBook Pro starts at $1,699.
You can go to Dell and configure their XPS laptops all day long, and they won't be any cheaper than a Mac.
Nobody makes computers like this on the cheap:
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