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Identify these 2 breeds, both on the banned list!

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  • moonkee
    moonkee Posts: 47 Forumite
    Fila Brasileiro when untrained can be aggressive and unruly. It basically needs an expert handler. And again a Dogo Argentino isn't for a casual dog owner but both can be extremely loyal dogs.

    Personally I'd love to see the day when all owners have to be registered and proven to be sound of mind before owning a dog.
  • Paradigm
    Paradigm Posts: 3,663 Forumite
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    moonkee wrote: »
    Fila Brasileiro when untrained can be aggressive and unruly. It basically needs an expert handler. And again a Dogo Argentino isn't for a casual dog owner but both can be extremely loyal dogs.

    I'd agree to a certain extent but then I could walk you round where I live & show you as many dogs as you like that are "untrained, aggressive & unruly" ranging from Jack Russels to Labs, the breed isn't the deciding factor.

    The case of the poor little boy in Liverpool highlights just how much of a farce the DDA is, it needs repealing now! It plainly doesn't work, or was it meant to! It was a placebo to offset media driven hype & to placate public opinion...the "we've taken action" scenario which has achieved !!!!!! all!

    In it's place let's have a properly thought out dog ownership act with thorough consultation from people who know about dogs... maybe Vets, RSPCA, The Kennel Club! I dunno I'm just floating an idea.

    Let's go for..

    Compulsory microchipping!
    Reintroduction of the dog licence @ £200, maybe £300 or more!
    Failure to have either results in the dog being confiscated & put down!
    Really punitive sentences for irresponsible owners!
    The Police actually acting on a "tip-off"

    Instead of messing about with some "half assed" law lets get something meaningful in place!
    Always try to be at least half the person your dog thinks you are!
  • MrsE_2
    MrsE_2 Posts: 24,161 Forumite
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    I've two male cats same breed that are a week apart in age.

    They are raised & treated the same (they even share family in their pedigrees).

    George is a gentle dope & when you play the finger game he makes sure he keeps his claws in & only pretends to savage your finger - he starts licking.

    Charlie plays the same game - but with claws & teeth:eek::eek::eek:

    So maybe its not all about up bringing, animals come with their own set of genetics & personality traits.
  • gettingready
    gettingready Posts: 11,330 Forumite
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    I am all for dog licenses - only granted after psychological tests, references from neighbours going back 5 years (trends towards anti-social behaviour), income assesement (pets cost money) etc etc....

    Too often I see the ads like "We want a dog, we can not pay but offer a loving home blah blah..."

    Sorry but pets, especially dogs cost a fortune to look after properly and end up in schelters as people offering loving homes can not afford the vet fees when thngs go wrong or behavioural assistance from specialists when dog "plays up".

    Love my dog and cat to pieces - my insurance for both has just gone up from just about £30 to over £50 per month, both eat good food (check the ingridients not just the cheapest price), dog is taken out at lunchtime by a dog walker with a bunch of her dog friends and having fun while I slave away in the office to pay for it, cat has got kidney problems and insurance excess is £60 so..... but would never be without them.

    Sorry, went off topic... LOL

    Where was I? Ah... DDA - people see my dog ( German Shepherd) and look scared. Why? Perceptions - breed.

    She is the friendliest furry creature around and once I tell people they can stroke her - they are all in love with her.
  • Lish_2
    Lish_2 Posts: 168 Forumite
    If there is reasonable proof that the dog has bitten because they have been mis-treated by the owners then the owner should be put down and the dogs should go to a rehabilitation centre.
    Would be much more effective in my opinion!
    :j :jTotally and utterly debt free as of 27/05/09!!!:j :j
  • MrsTine wrote: »
    I'm a lifelong horselover (sadly not owner - blooming lottery win keeps eluding me :( ) and I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that the hour by hour risk is higher for horse riding of a serious injury or death then even riding a motorbike (the comparison I saw was 1 injury per 350 hours horsing about to 1 in 7000 hours for horsing it about as it were). So assuming the statistic at the moment is correct for 10 horse related deaths a year... I think the risk is far higher for dying "by the hoof" than "by the paw" - yet there is no banned horse breeds :confused: yet i can think of a couple of "air-for-brains" breeds that we would be far safer without ;)
    But imagine the kind of opposition if they tried to ban certain horses? I would certainly expect a far greater outcry than what they came up against with the few banned dog breeds and from a lot of people who on the whole have a lot more money to oppose these bans.
    I still think that dog ownership should be controlled to a degree - there are too many who do not take responcibility for their animals and let them roam the streets etc. Bring back the dog license and make all dogs have to have microchips with a compulsary registration scheme and a £500 fine for first offences and £2k for a second. Bet you people would suddenly think twice about abandoning dogs, backyard breeding and so on...
    (ok the idea needs a bit of work... but the concept seems workable lol)


    But horse related deaths are not normally due to an attack by an aggressive horse, more often due to rider/handler incompetence (include in that not being competent enough for the task in hand as well and general incompetence) or mistake/misjudgement. A great number of horse related deaths will also be road traffic accidents due to no fault or horse or rider.

    That is why horse breeds aren't banned but dog breeds are.

    Also I believe that Stallions are classified as dangerous animals like bulls and can't be turned out where there is public access as they can be territorial and aggressive in certain circumstances. But the number of stallions kept in the UK are low and most are owned by professionals.
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