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  • sjaypink
    sjaypink Posts: 6,740 Forumite
    Oh lord... I just clicked through to the iconic images thread, a quick scroll through and a few of them just make me feel completely sick to the stomach. I dont watch the news, read papers or read any dt threads whose titles suggest it is about the latest horror story in the media.

    I don't know if thats in some way selfish to avoid the issues, I feel happier I think, most of the time, than people who get a good daily dose of trauma & misery, but when I accidently stumble across pics of starving kids etc I feel like the worst person for ignoring it all & choosing to stay in my own little bubble.

    Makes your life seem so meaningless, or, I mean, your worries so trivial.
    I mean my life of course, not 'yours'
    We cannot change anything unless we accept it. Condemnation does not liberate, it oppresses. Carl Jung

  • sjaypink
    sjaypink Posts: 6,740 Forumite
    Maxiwax wrote: »
    I love the train track photograph.
    I may be wrong but in the distance I think it is a concentration camp. Evil personified.
    I didnt see that one and wont be going back to look again. I feel terrible :(

    ..but even thats hugely selfish & disrespectful.... how dare I feel terrible. I should be feeling lucky & happy & driven for having so many opportunities, and be putting energies into thinking what I can do for others.... sometimes I honestly wish I was religious
    We cannot change anything unless we accept it. Condemnation does not liberate, it oppresses. Carl Jung

  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    sjaypink wrote: »
    I didnt see that one and wont be going back to look again. I feel terrible :(

    ..but even thats hugely selfish & disrespectful.... how dare I feel terrible. I should be feeling lucky & happy & driven for having so many opportunities, and be putting energies into thinking what I can do for others.... sometimes I honestly wish I was religious

    I don't think you're selfis or disrespectful, I think your abject horror sounds immensely respectful of the suffering tbh. I (personally) think we should all take time to reflect on the horrors, not only, or even, to help, but to consider their causes and what we feel politically our cross in a box might mean both in the country and beyond. Buty its also as important or sanity to understand our limits in abilty. We can all, contribute to not continueing to over populate, and minimise rubbish use etc...we can't all personally feed all the hungry or insist no one in a poverty ridden situation doesn't swell the numbers of starving by having many children.....

    DH lost a lot of family in the camps, and he manages not only to have a good sense of humour about it -some pretty astounding jokes if you were anti semitic are actually pretty funny when you aren't.

    we takechoices in charitable donation as to our own prorities for the many ills that face the world...thats all we can do. Individually the heartbreak is endless, but on a scale of what or how....its seems callous, but is, imo the only prospect for reduction in misery.
  • sjaypink
    sjaypink Posts: 6,740 Forumite
    lir, you speak so much sense there, thanks :)
    We cannot change anything unless we accept it. Condemnation does not liberate, it oppresses. Carl Jung

  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    Maxiwax wrote: »
    I love the train track photograph.
    I may be wrong but in the distance I think it is a concentration camp. Evil personified.

    The photo is looking from the gas chambers/crematoria to the entrance gate Birkenau, on the left is the platform where the decision was made on who was to live (for the time being) and die.
    At night the people on the train coming through the gate would have seen the night sky at the end of the track lit up and maybe guessed their fate, makes my skin crawl especially when I think of the little ones :eek:
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    sjaypink wrote: »
    lir, you speak so much sense there, thanks :)

    Darlin', if one talk enough something one says might be moderately sensible. Rare and random, rare and random.

    Anyway. I had a dream about the Debate/cashtrati last night, it was very odd, and I can't remember it very well now....
  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    Reading this makes me very glad I stopped at P1 and didn't look too closely.

    I'm with sjay - literally unbearable.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    Mr.Brown wrote: »
    Apart from a really trivial incontinence problem which has now stopped my 'going commando' I think I probably tick most of the boxes around here. Sometimes at weekends my pheremones get so much that my wife orders me to take a bath.

    You mean like Superman icon7.gif
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 49,650 Ambassador
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    It's snowing again!
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  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    I know you're near me, silvercar, but don't know exactly where.

    The good/bad news - depending on your perspective - is that the 'swirling, whirling snowstorm' (prize to all parents who can tell me where that quote's from :)) which engulfed us a couple of minutes ago, has now stopped. Clear skies again, v cold.

    Not going out, as at home with sad cross boy with terrible earache, and strong dislike for his medicine. :(
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