Blue Lights

Happychappy

Officer_Dibble wrote: »

You mean you weren't trained until 96. There was formailised training in 88 when I joined.

With regards to one of your previous posts. I have seen the police instruct the ambulance service in rider training, puting them through standard and advanced courses for their motorcycle response. It therefore may not be a dead loss of the OP to see their advice.

I did a standard course in 77 and an advanced in 80 followed by advanced bike in 81, advanced car instructor in 95, advanced bike instructor in 96, but throughout all of this, there was no blue light training until 96.

You are correct, the police do training for some of the ambulance service life bikes as they fall within the gambit of an ambulance, or they did do until recently when there was a High Court ruling as to what is an ambulance which clarified not only the vehicle but also its use and the drivers training.

It really depends exactly what the Op is trying to claim the vehicle is being used for, is it police, fire, or ambulance purposes, but clearly not SOCA, then the problem will arise as to the certificate in high speed driver training and where this will be obtained from, and how? just because another emergency service rings them to attend, it does not mean they are attending on their behalf.

Premier_2

sebdangerfield wrote: »

They are fully obliged to stop. ...

sebdangerfield wrote: »

...I don't understand the last bit, I didn't mention the highway code, I only quoted from the specific case law in which it was proven that members of the public are obliged to move.

So are they obliged to move or obliged to stop?

And you don't know why I quoted the Highway Code?

sebdangerfield

So are they obliged to move or obliged to stop?

Both, read the case law I quoted, it's fairly starightforward. (And common sense)

And you don't know why I quoted the Highway Code?

No. Thats why I previously said I didn't know why you posted it, to give you chance to explain. What you posted only states you need to take appropriate action to allow an emergency vehicle to pass and not to stop on the brow of a hill. None of it mentions that you are not obliged to stop if an emergency vehicle is on the opposite side of the road and comming towards you. The case law I refer to does.

Premier_2

sebdangerfield wrote: »

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No. Thats why I previously said I didn't know why you posted it, to give you chance to explain. ...

I'll give it a miss, thank you. :rolleyes:

sebdangerfield

Didn't think so! I doesn't mention anything at all which backs up your claim. And anyway as we all know, it's code not law.

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rev_henry

DaveMacD wrote: »

It was earlier than that. January 1st '97. I know that because I was 15 days too late to get full trailer entitlement.

Ah ok, what did they stop you doing in Feb 2001 then? I'm sure there was something.

NickyBoy

I don't have any 1st hand experience of these courses, but they might fit the bill:

http://www.ddtgroup.com/courses/specialist/emergency-service-blue-light-training-course

http://www.protectivedriving.co.uk/ert.htm

http://www.bespokedrivertraining.co.uk/emergency_response_index.htm