Variation and Working/child tax credits

Soubrette

speedster wrote: »

fraud is VERY hard to prove when the paper trail stops, and £50 coming back over the garden fence effectively terminates the paper trail.

Actually it's easy to see the lack of something as well as the paper trail of something.

Like I was getting at before - what are you going to do with this money? - all personal and business accounts are scrutinised, if you spend a suspiciously small amount on essentials then this could be questioned. The best you can do is stick it under your bed until your child is no longer eligible for CSA and actually make the money 'disappear' in total.

Remember, it is not only the NRP with access to an accountant.

Sou

CSA_Help

Soubrette wrote: »

Actually it's easy to see the lack of something as well as the paper trail of something.

Like I was getting at before - what are you going to do with this money? - all personal and business accounts are scrutinised, if you spend a suspiciously small amount on essentials then this could be questioned. The best you can do is stick it under your bed until your child is no longer eligible for CSA and actually make the money 'disappear' in total.

Remember, it is not only the NRP with access to an accountant.

Sou

A i said i went throug a full HMRC (ir35 audit) which lasted 4 years and they scrutinesed everything but couldn't fail me on anything as everything was audited properly .They knew which contracts were worked on and knew the milage to each site by the company records and also by themselves.

All transactions were done by BACS so it wasn't as if there was cash in hand services

Soubrette

CSA_Help wrote: »

A i said i went throug a full HMRC (ir35 audit) which lasted 4 years and they scrutinesed everything but couldn't fail me on anything as everything was audited properly .They knew which contracts were worked on and knew the milage to each site by the company records and also by themselves.

All transactions were done by BACS so it wasn't as if there was cash in hand services

I assume you had nothing to hide

No fake employees or inflated mileage or other creative accounting system such as dog as principle shareholder . Out of interest do you think you would have got away with any of those evasions during the full audit?

Thanks

Sou

CSA_Help

Soubrette wrote: »

I assume you had nothing to hide

No fake employees or inflated mileage or other creative accounting system such as dog as principle shareholder . Out of interest do you think you would have got away with any of those evasions during the full audit?

Thanks

Sou

No fake employees or inflated mileage as it was all recorded (and not recoded) for days that were taken off .There was no evasions shown up during a full audit and the IR were quite happy that the company cheque book was used to pay them the tax & NI payable .Nothing to hide at all

alwayspuzzled

Found_true_love wrote: »

Did I read in some leaflet somewhere, that if you recieve WTC and/or CTC then a variation request by the RP would not be considered?

And if that it so does it apply to a variation of "undeclared income not taken into account"?

I am looking to write to the CSA as they are asking me to provide my "tax calculation" forms (no problem there though) but a nice timely intervention reminding them of their own rules would be good to head them off at the pass.

This actually makes sence of the variation result we got recently. Pwc applied on grounds of 'undelared income/assets, lifestyle inconsistant etc' making lots of nasty allegations. After we sent in everything they asked for, reply came back as "variation declined as circurmstances fall under prescribed conditions (receipt of child tax credits)." I didn't really understand the reasons for that but was so glad they didn't seem to have believed any of her horrible lies didn't look in to the meaning.

CSA_Help

Found_true_love wrote: »

Got it its in the booklet titled "How is child maintenance worked out"

Booklet number CSL303

An extract

Page 31

What happens when we are asked to take other
factors into account?
When one parent asks us to take other factors into account,
we ask them to tell us why they think the amount of child
maintenance should change.
We usually send these details to the other parent. This enables
them to tell us what they think and to get information from
everyone involved. We can then make a decision about whether
to change the amount of child maintenance.
What happens to my child maintenance?
Your request can increase or reduce the amount of child
maintenance that must be paid or may not change it at all.
When can’t the CSA change child maintenance?
We don’t usually change child maintenance if the non-resident

parent asks us to

and:

• they or their partner is getting income-related benefits or
Pension Credit
• they or their partner has been assessed as paying flat-rate or
nil-rate child maintenance, or

• we have made a default maintenance decision (see page 26).


Page 32

Also, we don’t usually change child maintenance if the parent
with care asks us to

and:

• the non-resident parent or their partner is getting incomerelated
benefits or Pension Credit
• the non-resident parent or their partner is getting Working
Tax Credit
• the non-resident parent has an income of more than £2,000
a week, or
• we have made a default maintenance decision (see page 26).
Finally, we don’t change child maintenance if the non-resident
parent has expenses for periods when the child stays overnight
with them but we have already reduced the amount to take into

account these overnight stays.

Now under what rule can they buck these comments?

Im sure they have a catch all but........

Eureka

Got you again CSA

I feel my typing fingers coming on again :rotfl: