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My sister had a child with someone, she raised him on her own as they split up and he has since married and has 2 kids with his wife, he has lost his job and told her he cant give her any money, is this right, my sister works part time and receives working tax credits but how can a man father a child then not pay a penny, shouldnt he even have money deducted from his benefit
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  • Hello,
    It will help if you tell us if the CSA have been involved yet? Does the ex live and work in the UK, is he self employed?

    Your sister will need to contact the CSA asap if she hasn't already done so, and open a case.
  • what thread has it moved too please
  • burkey365 wrote: »
    what thread has it moved too please
    Your thread has been moved to the CSA advice board where there are more experts at hand.
  • CSA say he doesnt need to pay anything, (madness in my eyes) he was working but now unemployed in UK
  • DX2
    DX2 Posts: 8,275 Forumite
    burkey365 wrote: »
    My sister had a child with someone, she raised him on her own as they split up and he has since married and has 2 kids with his wife, he has lost his job and told her he cant give her any money, is this right, my sister works part time and receives working tax credits but how can a man father a child then not pay a penny, shouldnt he even have money deducted from his benefit
    Did she actually apply to the CSA when they split up? If he is on benefit he will have a flat rate of a fiver aweek.
    *SIGH*
    :D
  • yes she applied straight after split and they made him pay then she received a letter saying he never had too
  • DX2
    DX2 Posts: 8,275 Forumite
    The flat rate of child maintenance is £5 a week - no matter how many children are involved.

    The non-resident parent pays a flat rate for child maintenance if:
    • their net weekly income is between £5 and £100, or
    • they or their partner who they live with gets Income Support, income-based Jobseeker's Allowance, Employment and Support Allowance or Pension Credit, or
    • they are getting one of the following benefits:
      • contribution-based Jobseeker’s Allowance
      • State Retirement Pension
      • Incapacity Benefit
      • Carer's Allowance
      • Widowed Mother’s Allowance, Widowed Parent's Allowance, Widow's Pension
      • Severe Disablement Allowance
      • Industrial Injuries Benefit
      • Maternity Allowance
      • a training allowance approved by the Department for Work and Pensions
      • Armed Forces Compensation Scheme payments
      • a War Disablement or War Widow’s Pension
      • Bereavement Allowance
      • a social security benefit paid by a country outside the United Kingdom.
    Non-resident parents who pay the flat rate because they receive a benefit, pension or allowance will pay no child maintenance if they share the care of a qualifying child for at least 52 nights a year. Non-resident parents who pay the flat rate because they have net weekly income of £100 or less have no further reduction because of shared care and they continue to pay £5.
    An exception to this rule is if a non-resident parent is liable for child maintenance to more than one parent with care, but does not share the care of all the qualifying children. If this is the case, the non-resident parent will still have to pay the share of the child maintenance due to any parent with care with whom there are no shared care arrangements.
    http://www.csa.gov.uk/en/setup/benefit-income.asp
    *SIGH*
    :D
  • CSA_Help
    CSA_Help Posts: 1,318 Forumite
    DX2 wrote: »
    The flat rate of child maintenance is £5 a week - no matter how many children are involved.


    The non-resident parent pays a flat rate for child maintenance if:
    • their net weekly income is between £5 and £100, or
    • they or their partner who they live with gets Income Support, income-based Jobseeker's Allowance, Employment and Support Allowance or Pension Credit, or
    • they are getting one of the following benefits:
      • contribution-based Jobseeker’s Allowance
      • State Retirement Pension
      • Incapacity Benefit
      • Carer's Allowance
      • Widowed Mother’s Allowance, Widowed Parent's Allowance, Widow's Pension
      • Severe Disablement Allowance
      • Industrial Injuries Benefit
      • Maternity Allowance
      • a training allowance approved by the Department for Work and Pensions
      • Armed Forces Compensation Scheme payments
      • a War Disablement or War Widow’s Pension
      • Bereavement Allowance
      • a social security benefit paid by a country outside the United Kingdom.
    Non-resident parents who pay the flat rate because they receive a benefit, pension or allowance will pay no child maintenance if they share the care of a qualifying child for at least 52 nights a year. Non-resident parents who pay the flat rate because they have net weekly income of £100 or less have no further reduction because of shared care and they continue to pay £5.
    An exception to this rule is if a non-resident parent is liable for child maintenance to more than one parent with care, but does not share the care of all the qualifying children. If this is the case, the non-resident parent will still have to pay the share of the child maintenance due to any parent with care with whom there are no shared care arrangements.
    http://www.csa.gov.uk/en/setup/benefit-income.asp

    DX2 how does that work ?

    NRP earns £200 (above the £100 )

    NRP partner on income support

    So does that mean that NRP only has to pay £5 per week ?

    Sorry not clued up on this
  • MrsTinks
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    burkey - how can the guy give her money if he hasn't got and can't get a job? :confused: If he hasn't got an income then how would you like him to give her any money? He'll be struggling feeding the other 2, himself and his current partner too... Yes it'll be tough on your sister but if he's lost his job then it's not exactly a bed of roses for him either... when he gets a new job then make sure the CSA know :)
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