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13 week interview query
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Daniel32 its nothing to worry about.
I find them quite helpful unlike the people that actually sign you on, get them to check yr cv, whatever is offered to you take it, even though you dont want too.
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I would not worry about the fact they are forcing you to apply for jobs that you do not want or perhaps are not suitable for.
There are still so many people out there applying for even minimum wage jobs you will still be lucky to get to the interview . It would surely not be in any employers interest to hire a person who did not want the job they were applying for or are not suitable for.
The powers that be at the JCP need to take a reality check as it is planet earth we are living on. Also perhaps someone on behalf of the JCP can explain how signing on weekly after the 13 week interview will improve a claimants chance of finding a job !
Where did the OP say that they had been forced to apply for these jobs?
OP if you are given jobs to apply for that you feel are not suitable for you then you need to discuss this with the advisor, its not going to help you deal with them coming here and asking us. You need to speak up and explain to them why the job is unsuitable, if they agree then that will be fine. The fact that you appear to have just taken these jobs means that the advisor will assume you are applying for them and may follow up on that.
Best of luck in finding a job.
Sam"You've been reading SOS when it's just your clock reading 5:05 "0 -
Daniel, I don`t know about sighning up as I have never got to do that nor have I have a job or been offered one by anybody.
One thing I would like to say that you are doing the right thing to wait for the right job since you did get the bother to pay and study for your degree.
I was always under the impression if you take a lower job offer you might well be stuck with it.
This is a bad time for anybody to get a job my advise is go and keep looking you are obviously very inteligent you will eventualy find what you are looking for.
It might be a good idea to volunteer yourself to gain some experience and confidence.
Hey there is my talking - desperate for job myself, not massive adducation, tons of life time experience, always get the jobs done and get people to do jobs, but noone wants to employe me.( mother of three).
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daniel32,
What's your degree in? I'll point you in the right direction. It's not always the obvious jobs that are the best.0 -
Well ..one thing I know for sure. You don't have to sign on every week at the 13 week stage everywhere, and it's not "normal" . It may happen in some cases or areas, but it certainly doesn't were I am.
It doesn't happen at the 6 month or 12 monthly ones either.
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It's my understanding that up until the 13 week deadline you can limit what kind of jobs and at what salary level you are prepared to apply for. After that time you do not have the same luxury and should be prepared to expand those limits. Speak to your advisor if you are not clear on this issue as it could affect your entitlement to JSA. With or without a degree people all over the country are being compelled to apply for almost anything, even part-time work at minimum wage. Please do not forget that all JobCentrePlus workers are now contractors to the government and they have all sorts of targets to meet and getting you off JSA and into paid work, any work, is one of the main ones. Now, getting an offer for a role you do not want is a completely different thing.0
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sammyjammy wrote: »Where did the OP say that they had been forced to apply for these jobs?sammyjammy wrote: »
Sam
Okay fair enough,they are not exactly holding a gun to his head, but it comes across as "Apply for these jobs that you are not suitable for or risk losing your JSA !"0 -
I think that's exactly what it is0
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Ilovecubbage wrote: »Daniel, I don`t know about sighning up as I have never got to do that nor have I have a job or been offered one by anybody.
One thing I would like to say that you are doing the right thing to wait for the right job since you did get the bother to pay and study for your degree.
We don't know if the OP paid for his degree or not. I didn't pay for mine. Don't get me wrong, I put in the work, but it didn't cost me a penny (am now paying back extremely small amounts to the student loans company, deducted from my salary, which at this rate I'm unlikely to ever clear...and am very much not bothered about the fact).I was always under the impression if you take a lower job offer you might well be stuck with it.
I don't think the OP's concern is about 'lower' job offers at all, but rather about offers that he deems to be unsuitable. It's one thing to push an unemployed person (graduate or not) towards jobs that "anyone" can do, but it's quite another to encourage them to apply for jobs of which they have zero knowledge or experience (more on that later...).
The general consensus is that it's easier to progress to better jobs if you're already employed. No matter what your educational background, your work ethic speaks for itself when you take "undesirable" jobs in order to simply get some work experience, and to of course pay the bills.
I wouldn't reccommend that anyone takes just any job for the sake of it, but lowering any "standards" you might have is pretty much a must, especially during these past 2 years.
You're unlikely to get stuck in a job you hate forever, provided you have the will and determination to ride out an unattractive job, giving it your all no matter what. If/when the economy picks up again, it still won't be easy. It never has been. People who thumb their noses at particular jobs for no real reason will go back to the bottom of the pile. Any canny employer is going to pick out people who have been willing and able to just do their best during the recession, i.e. those who have gotten their heads down and haven't expected a top job to suddenly land in their laps.
When I graduated (before the recession kicked in), graduate jobs were very thin on the ground - not much better than they are now. So I sucked it up, landed a PT shop job, and worked my way up within that company. I managed to turn an 8hour contract into a 40hour FT job, taking on various management tasks, travelling round a bit, and basically getting bits and pieces of experience right through the company. And I'm nothing special...I didn't need to brown-nose or anything like that. After 3 years' experience there, I landed a so-called "proper" job, which I wouldn't have got without the skills I built as a shop worker. 4 years after starting my shop job, I'm hopefully (fingers crossed) again about to progress within my new chosen field, as I have a job interview lined up very soon. Should I fail, I still have a solid job to continue to do until my next opportunity comes along.This is a bad time for anybody to get a job my advise is go and keep looking you are obviously very inteligent you will eventualy find what you are looking for.
It might be a good idea to volunteer yourself to gain some experience and confidence.
"Keep looking" is excellent advice, but it's also patently obvious. Voluntary work has its advantages, but I'd consider it a fallback when there was no prospect of a paid job. The OP might have a chance at paid work, which I would jump at, but it's the OP's choice of course (again, more on that later...). Unfortunately, the OP is just one of many thousands of young men and women who have been sold the dream of university, and are struggling to reap its supposed rewards. My advice to any young graduates (having been there) is to literally take whatever comes along first, and to make the most of that opportunity until something more suitable comes up...you'll thank yourself for it later.
As to the OP - chin up mate. What about trying to learn a bit more about these 2-3 jobs that have been presented to you, before you completely write them off? Personally, I'd love to work with disadvantaged children in my area (granted, sometimes it's difficult, and doesn't always pay superbly), but I guess we're quite different.
What I'd do is send the applications and attend the interviews if invited. I'd use that opportunity to learn as much as I could about the jobs, then I'd assess whether or not they suited me.
Also, don't forget, the prospective employers will also be assessing your suitability for their roles. If they don't think you're suitable, you're unlikely to get the jobs...so what's to lose?
Best of luck:o
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Just because you have a degree - it doesnt give you the right to recieve JSA until the perfect job comes along. The JC+ has a duty to get people off JSA and into Jobs.
If you are unwilling to get anything but the perfect job, that is your choice, so why should you get JSA.0
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