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  • Mr.Brown_4
    Mr.Brown_4 Posts: 1,109 Forumite
    carolt wrote: »
    We shouldn't be incentivising people like Karen Matthews to have 7 children by 5 different fathers.
    I agree. That sort of output should really be up for some sort of sponsorship deal.
  • BACKFRMTHEEDGE
    BACKFRMTHEEDGE Posts: 1,294 Forumite
    edited 18 November 2009 at 9:15PM
    Pobby wrote: »
    I didn`t say that people with genuine disabilities should live on a pittance. I think you misunderstood the point of my op. I said life style choices.

    I don't think I misunderstood any of your posts. My point is a clear one - there but for the grace of God (or a kind relative) go you. Reflect on that.
    A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step

    Savings For Kids 1st Jan 2019 £16,112
  • BACKFRMTHEEDGE
    BACKFRMTHEEDGE Posts: 1,294 Forumite
    carolt wrote: »
    It's naive in the extreme not to accept that if more children didn't also = more benefits, less (unwanted) children would be born in the first place, as people who view children just as a meal ticket would cease to have them.

    We shouldn't be incentivising people like Karen Matthews to have 7 children by 5 different fathers.

    So what do you think we should do CarolT? Just leave kids languishing in poverty to punish them for the "sins" of their parents?
    A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step

    Savings For Kids 1st Jan 2019 £16,112
  • treliac
    treliac Posts: 4,524 Forumite
    BACKFRMTHEEDGE wrote: »
    So what do you think we should do CarolT? Just leave kids languishing in poverty to punish them for the "sins" of their parents?

    Many are being punished quite severely enough by the misfortune of having the parents they do. Throwing money at such parents doesn't alleviate the poverty of their children one bit.
  • Pobby
    Pobby Posts: 5,438 Forumite
    BACKFRMTHEEDGE wrote: »
    I don't think I misunderstood any of your posts. My point is a clear one - there but for the grace of God (or a kind relative) go you. Reflect on that.

    Sorry but are you totally thick or just trying to wind me up?
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    BACKFRMTHEEDGE wrote: »
    Leaving children in poverty helps no-one. children have no choice about the circumstances they are born into.

    And simply throwing money at the parents won't sort out poverty either.
  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    BACKFRMTHEEDGE wrote: »
    So what do you think we should do CarolT? Just leave kids languishing in poverty to punish them for the "sins" of their parents?

    No - you definitely did misunderstand my post.

    My point was that those same children would not have been born if the policies we have had not existed.

    If we ended the policy tomorrow, we would be reducing the number of miserable, unwanted children born to mothers like this:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8362815.stm
  • bo_drinker
    bo_drinker Posts: 3,924 Forumite
    They keep churning them out.

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=2055803
    I came in to this world with nothing and I've still got most of it left. :rolleyes:
  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    bo_drinker wrote: »
    They keep churning them out.

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=2055803

    :eek: :eek: :eek:

    Thank goodness for the menopause.
  • SingleSue
    SingleSue Posts: 11,718 Forumite
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    bo_drinker wrote: »
    They keep churning them out.

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=2055803

    Blimey, I went into shock at getting pregnant with my 3rd....14? Eeeekkk!

    The thought of being pregnant now gives me the shivers, so glad it is not possible.
    We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
    Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.
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