ASDA refused holiday now My son has to quit

N9eav

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Have they actually told him he definatly has the job permanently? As far as I'm aware everyone taken on starts on a temporary 12 week contract, and at the end of the 12 weeks if you've impressed (or there's a job if it's over xmas) you get kept on.
I was told from the start that there was a vacancy BUT only if I passed the trial period.[/QUOTE]

I think you are right. He has a 12 week contract which ends Dec 19th, 1 day after we leave on holiday.
The difference being some were on Christmas contracts only, he was on a contract that had an offer of work beyond Christmas subject to how he performs.
He has impressed, so no problems there. I just think there are some poor quality middle managers....

I have written a letter to the store manager on his behalf explaining the situation and promises etc and informing them of his intention to resign, but left it open to negotiation If the Store manager wishes to. Lets see what happens?

GlasweJen

OP why have you written the letter, it should be your son who is dealing with this? You're not asking a teacher permission to go on holiday! This is your sons job and it is inappropriate for you to write into his work about it, the manager may not even be able to reply due to data protection, he can't discuss personal details with anyone who isn't the person he's dealing with.

DVardysShadow

As GlasweJen says. As manager, I would groan if I received a letter from a parent - I would find it out of order. It does your son no favours. I see no problem drafting a letter, but he must write it, sign it hand it in.

Why do parents do this with their offspring's jobs? If they are mature enough to hold down a job, they should be allowed [made] to fight their own battles.

SueC_2

You may feel like he's still your 'little boy', but he's all grown up now - working for a living and everything. Let him fight his own battles, you're doing him no favours by trying to fight them for him.

donnajunkie

LittleVoice wrote: »

Advising a prospective employer (and the same employer on an induction form) that you have a holiday booked is not the same as having their agreement to that holiday. Even having a copy of the form to submit as evidence still doesn't prove that they agreed.

But I agree that they have not paid proper attention to the form if they are now refusing to allow the holiday.

They may be relying on having told the OP's son about it orally rather than in writing. We don't know.

it could be possible that the person who did the recruitment didnt tell his manager or perhaps his manager has forgot about it.

N9eav

GlasweJen wrote: »

OP why have you written the letter, it should be your son who is dealing with this? You're not asking a teacher permission to go on holiday! This is your sons job and it is inappropriate for you to write into his work about it, the manager may not even be able to reply due to data protection, he can't discuss personal details with anyone who isn't the person he's dealing with.

I wrote it he signed it. It's not a letter from his dad! It's a letter from him to his boss. I was teaching him how to write official letters.:doh: I can see how it looks as though i was writing to his boss. I would not do that. He needs to learn, but with a little help....

bignred05

N9eav wrote: »

I wrote it he signed it. It's not a letter from his dad! It's a letter from him to his boss. I was teaching him how to write official letters.:doh: I can see how it looks as though i was writing to his boss. I would not do that. He needs to learn, but with a little help....

would it not be worth contacing asda head office ???

N9eav

Probably not at this stage, Lets see what the manager says first.

The thing is it's a 15 hour a week job, they can end the contract at 12 weeks anyway and so there is no point fighting it. I just think the treatment is disgusting.
The principle of investors in people is poor

ceridwen

rajuv wrote: »

same happenend to me when i worked in asda about 8 years ago.
i just called in sick.
there is nothing they can do about it

Well - yes...they could unfairly dismiss for this - and I guess get away with it for such a short length of service.

The whole point though would be that they MIGHT not unfairly dismiss and things might be okay. Even if they did do so - then OP's son would have been dismissed, rather than resigned = quite a difference in the eyes of the DWP when it comes to claiming benefit (ie hopefully no benefit disqualification for having been deemed to have resigned). The DWP, after all, can disqualify someone for benefit for up to 6 months if they are deemed to have resigned from a job.

ceridwen

N9eav wrote: »

I wrote it he signed it. It's not a letter from his dad! It's a letter from him to his boss. I was teaching him how to write official letters.:doh: I can see how it looks as though i was writing to his boss. I would not do that. He needs to learn, but with a little help....

...and at my advanced age (ie a certain age) I check out the wording of "official" type letters I have to send anyone sometimes with my father:D. MInd you - I'm the one out of us who knows what "legal" language to insert into said letter;):D. I'm just getting my father's help as a "sounding board" as to how the letter would come over to the ordinary (intelligent) "person in the street".

The thing is too that N9Eav has presumably spent many years in the workforce by now and so has a much better idea of how employers operate: ie what they might try/what the law allows them to do/etc. At the start of ones worklife one probably doesnt have a clue about the World of Work - I certainly didnt and it was/still is one heck of a shock to the system. The difference these days - after all these years - is I've seen and/or experienced a LOT of what employers can do that make their employees' lives a misery....and can anticipate and take avoiding action of a lot of it. It comes only with time...