ASDA refused holiday now My son has to quit

donnajunkie

SueC wrote: »

I'd seriously advise against this. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation, it is not beyond the realms of possibility that, at some point in the future, he will need a reference from them. If he "messes them around" then ultimately he could end up paying the price.

If he really cannot resolve the situation re. the holiday, I'd suggest he hands in the appropriate length of notice and politely explains that his reason for leaving is due to the misunderstanding that seems to have occured regarding his prior arrangements for a holiday.

is a reference from a job that has lasted a couple of months worth anything? would they give him a reference anyway if he resigned? he would have to resign today to be able to give a months notice because he goes away in a month.
of course if he wants to do it the proper way like that then he should do so. personally i would mess them around if they had done to me what they have done to him.

DVardysShadow

SueC wrote: »

I'd seriously advise against this. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation, it is not beyond the realms of possibility that, at some point in the future, he will need a reference from them. If he "messes them around" then ultimately he could end up paying the price.

But they in reality are the ones who have messed him around. That is not to justify him messing them around, it is just to say that if they messed him around would a reference from them be useful?

Simon949

I thought that if you informed an employer of booked holidays prior to being offered a job (i.e. on the application form or at the interview) they had to honor the holiday but wasn't obliged to pay you for the time off.

DVardysShadow

Simon949 wrote: »

I thought that if you informed an employer of booked holidays prior to being offered a job (i.e. on the application form or at the interview) they had to honor the holiday but wasn't obliged to pay you for the time off.

Makes sense. And if they don't pay, your holiday allowance should be untouched if you don't count the preadvised holiday.

LittleVoice

Simon949 wrote: »

I thought that if you informed an employer of booked holidays prior to being offered a job (i.e. on the application form or at the interview) they had to honor the holiday but wasn't obliged to pay you for the time off.

Advising a prospective employer (and the same employer on an induction form) that you have a holiday booked is not the same as having their agreement to that holiday. Even having a copy of the form to submit as evidence still doesn't prove that they agreed.

But I agree that they have not paid proper attention to the form if they are now refusing to allow the holiday.

They may be relying on having told the OP's son about it orally rather than in writing. We don't know.

lisaann72red

When I started at Asda all previously booked holiday was honoured. I think that if it was stated at the interview stage it should not be a problem as they should have told him at that point that it wasnt going to be granted. Good Luck try not to shout about it explain the situation to your people manager if all else fails then work up to the date and give notice that you intend to leave on that date.
Asda as im sure all retail is pretty pants when it comes to getting holiday booked. I have missed weddings because I couldnt get my dates approved.

cazziebo

When someone is young and has very little work experience, every reference matters.

If you have documentary evidence ie copy of the application form, then I would write to head office. .

Something isn't holding up somewhere. I don't see a clued up retail company like Asda making a hire in September, investing in training, knowing the recruit couldn't work the busiest time of the year. (Most retailers make 25% of their entire annual profit in December, I'd imagine in foodstores the percentage is higher). Could they really allow someone with four months service that time off when employees with longer service can't take time off December or during the January sales?

So either the recruiters haven't done their job properly, or your son hasn't made himself clear enough. If it's the former, then you may get an apology and your son may get the opportunity to retain his employment.

Can I just say to all the posters saying that he "has a case". He doesn't have any case at all. There is no requirement to honour prebooked holiday and someone with so little service has very little comeback. Calling in sick when you're not is just wrong, and dismissable.

He has another job, good luck to him.

GlasweJen

OP, your son should speak to the people manager and explain that he informed the company on his application that he was going to be out the country, that should get things sorted, if it doesn't get the GSM involved as they are the highest manager in store and can bend company rules.

Also i have my asda handbook in front of me and it would only be one weeks notice that your son would serve if he left. You should definately get him to hand in notice if he's going to leave as he could miss out on accrued holiday time if he just doesn't turn up any more.

DVardysShadow

cazziebo wrote: »

... Can I just say to all the posters saying that he "has a case". He doesn't have any case at all. There is no requirement to honour prebooked holiday and someone with so little service has very little comeback.

I would agree, no comeback on undeclared prebooked holiday. but declared prebooked holiday is a different kettle of fish. It is totally out of order of the employer to take the chap on without making their own position clear.

emay

N9eav wrote: »

I mean they trained him and this was not just a Christmas job it was to continue on in to the new year and beyond. He will leave anyway so why not grant the holiday and have a trained worker for next year?

Have they actually told him he definatly has the job permanently? As far as I'm aware everyone taken on starts on a temporary 12 week contract, and at the end of the 12 weeks if you've impressed (or there's a job if it's over xmas) you get kept on.
I was told from the start that there was a vacancy BUT only if I passed the trial period.