work expects me to work through unpaid dinner hour

mountainofdebt

Blimey, it wasn't until I read this thread did I realise that there are some right old dinosaurs out there.

Believe it or not it an employer's market out there and if you don't like an employer's attitude then resign and let someone who is prepared to work with the employer's rules be employed by them.

I've always found that if you are prepared to be flexible for an employer then they will be flexible towards you

moneysavingexpert79

speedbird1973 wrote: »

No money. I'm working class too. I'm just not workshy scum like you and surrey! I get satisfaction and reward for my endevour! I genuinly think it's people like you that make me so "pro" immigration into the uk.

The original OP wasn't getting any reward for her mustard sandwiches and the hour long bus journey she had to endure. I probably had more qualifications by the time I was 18 than you have now and have worked in public, private, voluntary sectors as well as the military. What's your point?

surreysaver

redlooney wrote: »

!!!!!! ??? Easy everybody easy !! Thought we were on this MSE message board to get some cheap tins of beans or give CONSTRUCTIVE advice, not chew each other's bits off :eek:

You've obviously got the wrong end of the stick, then!!!!!:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

surreysaver

speedbird1973 wrote: »

Not at all. As I said before, people like you are easy to spot in interviews

How? It is so obvious what people like you want to hear in interviews! Tell me, how would you spot me in an interview?

surreysaver

mountainofdebt wrote: »

Blimey, it wasn't until I read this thread did I realise that there are some right old dinosaurs out there.

But there are a lot of ganets, too.

Believe it or not it an employer's market out there and if you don't like an employer's attitude then resign and let someone who is prepared to work with the employer's rules be employed by them.

It isn't always an employer's market. Employers will come to regret their current behaviour when we come out of recession.

I've always found that if you are prepared to be flexible for an employer then they will be flexible towards you

Agreed. But as soon as an employer starts to become inflexibe, then they are shooting themselves in the foot.

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RobertoMoir

onlyforboards wrote: »

Employees are also struggling too. Everyone wants to help their company if it means keeping themselves in employment. Some companies are taking advantage of the current climate to force their workforce to give up certain rights knowing they are more than likely to oblige though.
It is no good for anyone in the long-term. When things pick up employers expect more of their workforce and the workforce is resentful.

This section of the board might as well close down if eveytime someone posts a query about their working rights the standard reply becomes "put up with it we are in a recession".

Quite so. Employees and Employers are both struggling. I've got no problem with the idea of give and take other than the fact that most people who deploy it seem to think it means "I'll give you whatever I feel like and you've got to stand there and take it".

surreysaver

speedbird1973 wrote: »

No money. I'm working class too. I'm just not workshy scum like you and surrey! I get satisfaction and reward for my endevour! I genuinly think it's people like you that make me so "pro" immigration into the uk.

I'm not workshy. I do not take the mickey out of a boss that does not take the mickey out of me. Obviously, you think it is you right to get stuff for free from staff. slavery was abolished hundreds of years ago.

speedbird1973

moneysavingexpert79 wrote: »

The original OP wasn't getting any reward for her mustard sandwiches and the hour long bus journey she had to endure. I probably had more qualifications by the time I was 18 than you have now and have worked in public, private, voluntary sectors as well as the military. What's your point?

I have a degree, a masters and an airline transport pilots licence. You're not that qualified now let alone when you were 18! As for spotting people like you in an interview some people just believe they're there for my benefit. It's the questions they ask and the lack of respect they show. A couple of times i've been so unimpressed i've stopped the interview. If one got through the net and they refused to attend a lunchtime meeting they get marginalised very quickly.

myothercarisaferrari

to be honest luv, it is a one off so don't worry about it.:money:

ceridwen

pinkkiss wrote: »

i normally spend 70 - 80p on my dinner in the canteen ... chips and gravy. Do some people really spend £4 on their dinner everyday :eek:

And the speach was in no way about redundancies haha, it was a bragging speach about how well the companys doing, and how we've merged with another company which means more profits, jobs blah blah nothing useful

Anyway i got in this morning and the union rep said a few people had complained and the union were working on a solution .. we skipped our dinner today but the union are going to either request we get paid or leave a hour early another day .

To the people who said it was kicking up a fuss about nothing ...
There was no 'compromise' of giving us free dinner instead (i didnt even eat the sandwich in the end as they'd slathered mustard all over it and i cant stand mustard !) they put a note on our company intranet saying that is what was going to happen, didnt ask our opinion or agreement or anythin.

And the principle of it wasnt the money ... it was the fact that the company never relax about our working hours so why shuld we ..
if your 20 mins late in the morning, your made to work the 20 mins back at the end of the day...
but if your stuck on a call and leave 20 mins late at the end of the day you dont get the time back.
If we're 1 minute late logging back into our phones after a break its all noted in the late book ...
And them insisting i came in to work before the speach this morning. They wanted us to take calls until 8:15, then we could log out and go and catch the coach. I travelled a hour to take 15 minutes worth of calls! If i got a lift with my collegue, we wouldnt have to leave our homes until 9 o clock.

Maybe this is all fair enough, after all they're only expecting us to work the hours we agreed to when we accepted the job.
But then again, we're only expecting the breaks they agreed when we accepted the job.
It was never an issue before they decided we couldnt have our paid dinner hour.

This isnt the sort of company where missing your dinner is even appreciated, they only notice anything if we owe them time. Like somebody pointed out, i'm on a low wage and dont see why, if im available to work the hours ive agreed to, i should do what they want me to in my dinner hour too. it was their choice to send us on this speach, we didnt ask to go, so why should we sacrfice our hour for it

Thanks for the replies anyway, really wasnt expecting the thread to get this long !

..and this was the reason why I wasnt one of the posters saying "its only an hour and at least you dont have to take calls for a few hours" - because I suspected that OP's management would be literally counting every single minute they could AGAINST their employees. So - no give by them = no give by the employees.