Employer is holding me back from earning more money

[Deleted User]

nope, i don't work in a well known cheap clothes shop! i work in a well known chocolate shop!

i can totally understand the point about people using the whole 'work to live don't live to work' saying as a justification on going on benefits but you cannot tarnish everyone with the same brush - i think most graduates don't look at benefits as a long-term option, and i myself could have been on jobseekers since i graduated but i have chosen not to.

'If you live to work I think you are on a quicker path to reach the top though, I've met some very very ambitious folk in my time and they didn't get to where they are by not jumping through hoops (so to speak!).'

- but that is 'the top'? is this just financial success? and we all know that money doesn't lead to happiness! i personally would prefer to not work my !!!! off being miserable for years to be loaded when i get to say, 40/50..i'd rather have a job that enjoyed, could earn a decent wage from, feel like i was contributing to something worthwile..it's not that i'm not ambitious, i just know that there are more important things in life than working, such as enjoying the natural things around us and not getting too stressed about our own sad, insignificant lives..i just look at the bigger picture and refuse to accept the 'normal' view that you have to work a job you don't like in order to get by in life..it's a load of rubbish!

duchy

Well if you'll be leaving in Febuary anyway then your choices are talk to the area manager or suck it up.
I didn't see ANYONE suggest you quit before you had another job btw
The two managers are playing a power game and you're the ping pong ball in the middle getting bounced around-either put up with it or do something about it by talking to the area manager -doesn't have to be confrontational.
I'm very impressed you can save enough to go travelling on 4 hours work a week though.

EDIT As for your final post-you posted as I did........Most people work to achieve the means to fufil other goals in life-some people love their jobs , some people like them and some regard it as a means to an end. I know people who have worked in jobs you'd consider far below you to fund their travelling-to them it was worth it to be able to travel (some even had parents willing to fund the travelling but refused it preferring to take the grown up path rather than be dependent). Frankly you're whining-presumably as you find 4 hours a week enough to live on you are dependent on someone. It's a fortunate position to be in and not one all graduates have-either due to circumstances or choice.

[Deleted User]

duchy wrote: »

Well if you'll be leaving in Febuary anyway then your choices are talk to the area manager or suck it up.
I didn't see ANYONE suggest you quit before you had another job btw
The two managers are playing a power game and you're the ping pong ball in the middle getting bounced around-either put up with it or do something about it by talking to the area manager -doesn't have to be confrontational.
I'm very impressed you can save enough to go travelling on 4 hours work a week though.

EDIT As for your final post-you posted as I did........Most people work to achieve the means to fufil other goals in life-some people love their jobs , some people like them and some regard it as a means to an end. I know people who have worked in jobs you'd consider far below you to fund their travelling-to them it was worth it to be able to travel (some even had parents willing to fund the travelling but refused it preferring to take the grown up path rather than be dependent). Frankly you're whining-presumably as you find 4 hours a week enough to live on you are dependent on someone. It's a fortunate position to be in and not one all graduates have-either due to circumstances or choice.

hang on a second, you're just presuming that I've always been on 4 hours a week, which I haven;t. I started working when I was 16 and have worked in the same company since then and during university and during university holidays, working 20 hours most weeks as well as going to Uni! I've managed to save money because I'm good with saving and travelling is more important to me than clothes and personal belongings..

and how do you KNOW that I would consider the jobs that people you know work in to save money for travelling to be far below me???? you don't know me so don't make judge me.

and i am not dependent on someone, i live on my own and have substantial enough savings to allow me to do so and go travelling. just goes to prove that you don't know everything about me!

Jomo

smidge_smudge wrote: »

nope, i don't work in a well known cheap clothes shop! i work in a well known chocolate shop!

i can totally understand the point about people using the whole 'work to live don't live to work' saying as a justification on going on benefits but you cannot tarnish everyone with the same brush - i think most graduates don't look at benefits as a long-term option, and i myself could have been on jobseekers since i graduated but i have chosen not to.

'If you live to work I think you are on a quicker path to reach the top though, I've met some very very ambitious folk in my time and they didn't get to where they are by not jumping through hoops (so to speak!).'

- but that is 'the top'? is this just financial success? and we all know that money doesn't lead to happiness! i personally would prefer to not work my !!!! off being miserable for years to be loaded when i get to say, 40/50..i'd rather have a job that enjoyed, could earn a decent wage from, feel like i was contributing to something worthwile..it's not that i'm not ambitious, i just know that there are more important things in life than working, such as enjoying the natural things around us and not getting too stressed about our own sad, insignificant lives..i just look at the bigger picture and refuse to accept the 'normal' view that you have to work a job you don't like in order to get by in life..it's a load of rubbish!

Not everyone wants the same thing, some people find working hard and earning the top salaries more gratifying than others (probably) but then some are incapable of doing so in the first place. Who said that working hard makes everybody miserable? That is your personal opinion and if you don't want to work full time hours that says alot about you. I haven't ever known anyone thinking about the employer when it comes to earning them more money...they would just take the full time job then hand in their notice when it suits! Shop work can have a high turn over of staff anyway and it is more suited to people wanting a temporary job so I don't get it when you say you'd feel guilty.

You are right when you say there are more important things in life than just working, so long as you don't expect others to fund them. As for not accepting you have to work to get by in life, good look with that, you are either already well off or are planning on bagging a rich man?!

[Deleted User]

hahah
there are so many judgmental and stereotypical idiots on this forum.
i can't be bothered with this!
thanks for everyone's input in an interesting discussion!

oh and i never said i don't want to work full time hours...you just presumed that..

Jomo

smidge_smudge wrote: »

hahah
there are so many judgmental and stereotypical idiots on this forum.
i can't be bothered with this!
thanks for everyone's input in an interesting discussion!

oh and i never said i don't want to work full time hours...you just presumed that..

Like all the presuming you did in your later posts :rolleyes:

DCFC79

dave4545454 wrote: »

it makes it a lot harder to get a decent job if your CV is full of mininum wage shelf stacking jobs

but if they are the only jobs they have been offered then so be it, a job is a job and as long as it pays then its fine

SueC_2

What's wrong with working in retail? Everyone's talking about it like it's the lowest of the low, when actually it can be a career in its own right, and a very successful one at that. It's blinking hard work, requires many and varied skills, and has a progression path unlike many industries. There are even degrees in it!