Employer is holding me back from earning more money

borders_dude

passatrider wrote: »

It's called paying your way in life

here here passatrider. Your spot on!

passatrider

dave4545454 wrote: »

it makes it a lot harder to get a decent job if your CV is full of mininum wage shelf stacking jobs

Really..surely an employer will look more favourably on someone who has taken the initiative and worked for a living rather than do nothing at all?

passatrider

borders_dude wrote: »

here here passatrider. Your spot on!

Thankyou!;)

Do you know what the more I think about it the more convinced Iam that some people use University as an excuse, rather than going out into the real world and contributing like the rest of us have to do

dave4545454

passatrider wrote: »

Really..surely an employer will look more favourably on someone who has taken the initiative and worked for a living rather than do nothing at all?

no, they are looking for someone with experience in the job they are advertising, not experience in shelf stacking. there are many graduates who have started shelf stacking and find they are still stuck in that job 10 years later.

the crazy thing is that the government says there's a skills shortage in this country. there are many millions with skills but the lack of skilled jobs for them to do. the only place where there is an actual skills shortage is in the house of commons

passatrider

dave4545454 wrote: »

no, they are looking for someone with experience in the job they are advertising, not experience in shelf stacking. there are many graduates who have started shelf stacking and find they are still stuck in that job 10 years later.

the crazy thing is that the government says there's a skills shortage in this country. there are many millions with skills but the lack of skilled jobs for them to do. the only place where there is an actual skills shortage is in the house of commons

You only get experience of work if you make the effort to get it in the first place. I'm sorry but going to University is seen as an easy way to get into employment, yet life is not like that.

McKneff

smidge_smudge wrote: »

ofcourse i want another job, more challenging but i know that for the time being (i.e. the next few months) it would be foolish to quit the job i have in this economic climate. I don't think it's very fair that I am being judged for decisions that I am making about my own life from complete strangers - i am merely asking for advice on how to achieve getting more hours.

come on, youre a clever lad, give us also some credit.
You dont seem to want to even look for another more challending job.
I didnt say quit the job but you dont seem to be want to even look for anther job. There are jobs available even in this present climate.
If you dont look for one now, othe graduates who are now looking for these jobs will be filling them up so if you start looking in a few months
your mates wil have taken the few available. Do you live with your parents, do you pay board money. I'm not judging you, sometimes you just need to see it from other peoples point of view which is what i am doing at the moment. (from the point of view that I;m not a graduate,
just a secondary school gal (who is now sixty or 59 and 13 months :rotfl:) and throughout my life i have gutted chickens, collected eggs, i have done some shoity jobs, till I got fed up of dead end jobs and did some learning in my 30s and was determined to use what i had learned. I'm now on a good salary, own my own house, have subsantial savings, it doesnt seem five minutes since i was your age.
Actually, now i think about it i had 1 and a half children at your age.
Get the adrenalin going, youre worth more that this.
Good luck sweetheart.

and no offence is intedned, i have grandsons who are nearly your age

dave4545454

passatrider wrote: »

You only get experience of work if you make the effort to get it in the first place. I'm sorry but going to University is seen as an easy way to get into employment, yet life is not like that.

they are sold the myth by the government that uni will guarantee them a good job. and with the dumbing down of standards which means virtually anyone can get a degree these days as long as they prepared to pay or get into huge debt for it.

fabforty

smidge_smudge wrote: »

Hi,

ok so here's my problem (it is really starting to get me down and i don't know what to do!)

I'm currently working for a company that I've worked for since the age of 16 (on and off whilst studying) and I'm now 21. After graduating from University this summer, I went back to work for the company on a four hour contract (I accepted this because I needed the money and was promised more hours to cover holidays etc) so i held out hope that I would eventually get more. About a month ago, I started to get a bit disheartened by the lack of hours I was getting and the amount of time I was sat at home doing nothing when I could have been working. I explained to my manager that I was thinking of applying for other jobs even though I loved working for my employer.. My manager told me that she had guaranteed me at least one day a week in another branch in a nearby city being a keyholder (aswell as the 4 hours in my home city) after talking to the area manager. I was really thrilled and for three weeks I worked in the other store and did two days every week. Although it was tiring leaving the house at 6am and not getting back until 8pm, I felt like I had a purpose and I was earning about three times more per day than i was earning in over three weeks previously..

The manager at the second branch was really appreciative of me working at her shop as I am a key-holder and so managed the shop, so she could rely on me and trust me. But a couple of weeks ago, the work dried up in the second branch, even though I was told I would be given one day a week there by my manager back home. I felt a bit annoyed as my manager had told me I could have these hours to guarentee me work to stop me from quitting...I got some more hours at my home branch but I began to think more about when the other store would need me or even if they would at all!

My manager has been really rubbish with getting rotas done and this has ended up with me missing out on days upon days of work in the second branch. She would tell me that I couldn't work in the second branch becasue she would need me and i should put her first, but then I wouldn't be given any hours a particular weekend when I could have worked at the second store..

I talked to the store manager in the second branch and explained my frustration at being offered hours from her but not being able to do them because of my manager. Due to my manager being difficult, the second store's manager has given hours to other people because she didn't know when i was available.

My manager is making me work five days in a row doing 3 hours shifts each day one week (and i am therefore unable to work a full day in the second branch) and then the next week, she's got me down for 4 hours - so i'm sat at home doing nothing (it is very annoying that this week, the second branch doesn't even need me!)

argh I am sorry this is so long-winded but it's so complicated and i feel loyal to the branch I've worked in for years but feel that my manager is being difficult because she doesnt want me to work in the other store just incase she needs me...this is my life and I feel that I could be earning so much more and I have missed out on so much money because of my manager when I am willing to work..

I've been told I should ring the area manager direct as she has told the second store that their needs take priority over my original shop but I don't want to offend my manager and i wouldnt want her to find out..I just feel that my manager doesnt understand that i need as many hours as possible and to earn as much as possible as i'm planning on going travelling in march. And the store is probably closing in the new year so I will be jobless, so now is even more important. She's been on holiday the past week so I will see her on Tuesday but I just don't know how to talk to her or sort it all out without alienating and annoying everyone!

Please can someone offer some advice and tell me if they think I am being unreasonable? In my opinion, the second store who offers me more hours should tell me days that she wants me to work and then my manager should work around it as she cant give me as many!
but that will probably never happen!

thank you for reading this and i would appreciate any comments!

Sarah x

I don't think you are being unreasonable - but you do need to be practical, a bit more realistic, work out what you priorities and do what you need to do. First you say that you need to earn more money because you want to go travelling, but then when another poster suggests finding another job, your response is that you love your job and don't want to leave. So you have a choice to make. What is more important - staying in your job because you love it, or earning more money? The fact is, the job that you have is not giving you the income that you need and if you are working because you need the money (which you are), then it's a no brainer. You will be leaving in March to go travelling anyway, so I'm not sure why you are hell bent on staying there in the meantime. I don't know which part of the country you are in, but if you are close to a big city, you are bound to be able to find temporary work (especially in the retail sector), which will offer more hours than you are getting at the moment. In an ideal world you would be able to stay where you are and get additional hours, but it's clear that that isn't going to happen (it seems to have been clear for a while now). You have a simple choice to make. You can either do what you need to do to meet your own needs, or waste another four months complaining about the way things are. Stacking shelves may not be what you had in mind, but if you need the work.... I left university with a degree and masters (both in law) and for 6 months survived on three part-time jobs - 2 cleaning jobs plus a shift in a call centre.

passatrider

dave4545454 wrote: »

they are sold the myth by the government that uni will guarantee them a good job. and with the dumbing down of standards which means virtually anyone can get a degree these days as long as they prepared to pay or get into huge debt for it.

Totally agree with you on that score! Perhaps we ought to take more responsibility for our own actions though, rather than putting the blame at the doors of No 10!

amy_lou_4

On the subject of graduates doing jobs that are supposedly "below our level", I have applied for lots of retail work, and employers seem to realise that once they have spent time training me, and I have worked for a while, I would still be looking for other jobs where I would use my degree and would then leave to take that up, meaning they had to recruit all over again. I think this is fair enough in its way, I applied for temporary work over permanent wherever possible in the hope they would favour me in those circumstances.

We have indeed been sold this idea that we could walk into a good job after our degree and when my brother graduated a few years ago he did, so I had few doubts when I began my degree. It was only in my third and fourth year that I started to be concerned!

The OP stated that they are going travelling and don't want to mislead a new employer to believe that they would stay in a full-time job. There is no harm in looking for other temporary things though, with so much retail experience you would find it easy at this time of year! It might even make your two managers get on the phone and make some arrangement to keep hold of you if they thought they were *both* going to lose you!