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UKTigerlily

elvislover wrote: »

Thank you everyone for your reply's
This is something that i have wanted to do for the past 20 years and i have finally got the time and the room to do it . My children are grown i have three beautiful chihuahua's 2 girls and have just bought a little boy 'It's not something that i would do without a lot of thought ' My good friend breeds mini poodles and she will guide me through any problems at the begining and is on hand anytime i may need her .
My dogs have all been vet checked and are very much loved by myself and my family .So i would never put my precious dogs at risk . But surley if like some say they would not risk there dogs to reproduce ' there would be no chihuahua's for you to buy ' Someone has to breed these beautiful little dogs for you to be able to own one .
If as you all say that i won't be able to insure then i may set up an account just in case i need help from my vet
All your reply's were very much apreciated thanks

You are by breeding them, they can die during birth not to mention being unspayed risk tumours, pyo, phantom pregnancies etc
Are you doing this to better the breed? Doing it so others can have a Chihuahua isn't a reason! There's plenty of Dogs needing homes & no need to breed more of them just for fun or so others can get one!
Did you find out about the breeders insurance btw? Your friend would've told you i'm sure, but you can get it as I said

Raksha

OK, so you've bred your puppies. How are you going to answer the question 'why did you breed this litter'?

foreign_correspondent

Back to the original question, I know next to nothing about Chi's as a breed, but this may be helpful - it is breed specific and is apparently written by an experienced breeder - I cannot vouch for the credibility of the author, but it does give you a few points to consider, including some of the breed specific risks to your dogs and the potential costs incurred:

http://www.marlischis.com/to_breed_or_not_to_breed.htm

elvislover

Raksha wrote: »

OK, so you've bred your puppies. How are you going to answer the question 'why did you breed this litter'?

Why do i need to answer that question ??????
I didn't ask the breeder of my lovely dogs why she bred them !!!
Did you ????

just needed some advice on pet insurance not a lecture on why i shouldn't breed my dogs !!!!

elvislover

UKTigerlily wrote: »

You are by breeding them, they can die during birth not to mention being unspayed risk tumours, pyo, phantom pregnancies etc
Are you doing this to better the breed? Doing it so others can have a Chihuahua isn't a reason! There's plenty of Dogs needing homes & no need to breed more of them just for fun or so others can get one!
Did you find out about the breeders insurance btw? Your friend would've told you i'm sure, but you can get it as I said

my chi died from a tumor on her womb 9 years ago she had been spayed ' she also suffered with phantom pregnancy 'Maybe if i had of let her have a litter befor she was spayed i could have saved her from all the distress she went through as well as the pain from the op to remove the tumor .

foreign_correspondent

elvislover wrote: »

my chi died from a tumor on her womb 9 years ago she had been spayed ' she also suffered with phantom pregnancy 'Maybe if i had of let her have a litter befor she was spayed i could have saved her from all the distress she went through as well as the pain from the op to remove the tumor .

If she had been speyed she would not have had a womb to have a tumour on, so I am rather confused by this post...

Also, speyed b1tches do not have phantom pregnancies.. but having a litter sometimes makes this problem far worse afterwards.

In general, cancers are lower for speyed b1tches than unspeyed anyway, partially because they have no womb or ovaries to develop tumours in, and partially because some tumours in the mammary glands are oestrogen fed - and oestrogen is produced by the ovaries.

YorkiePud_3

Regardless of what anyone thinks, the OP has done a good thing by wanting to come and find out if her dogs would be covered. You cannot judge someone too harshly for wanting to find out all the ins and out of a situation before entering it.

As a dedicated chihuahua owner I have to say that although I have often thought about breeding these fabulous little dogs (not as fashion statements, I hasten to add, but as sturdy, loyal companions who are full of fun and mischief just like any other breed) .... but hearing about the high mortality rate of the Mums and, sometimes, the puppies too, I couldn't do it.
That's just my own personal choice ... it would break my heart to lose a dog or a puppy but that is a risk that some people take and not all chi pregnancies end up in tragedy although it has to be said there is a higher risk with chis than most other smaller breeds.

I tend to stick to boy chis (although I have had a little girl who was wonderful). I chose to spey her because I didn't want to risk her having mammary tumours or a pyometra (womb infection). I knew I wasn't going to risk breeding with her, so, in my case, that was the best thing to do for her sake.

elvislover, I wish you and your little chis all the best but I would definitely say start putting some money aside just incase they need vet treatment. I hope, of course, that they won't but it's best to have it there if needed.
In fact, am going to take my own advice there *L* ... I can't decide about which insurance to go with so I think I shall start a stash incase it's needed for a big bill.

elvislover

she had a tumor on a gland coming from her womb i can not spell 'She had fantom praegnancies befor and after she was spayed ' the vet thought she had a hormone imbalance ' As i don't know about these things i'm not going to argue the point '
I just wanted advice on pet insurance not a lecture on breeding dogs :0(

lostinrates

elvislover wrote: »

she had a tumor on a gland coming from her womb i can not spell 'She had fantom praegnancies befor and after she was spayed ' the vet thought she had a hormone imbalance ' As i don't know about these things i'm not going to argue the point '
I just wanted advice on pet insurance not a lecture on breeding dogs :0(

elvislover, I am one of the phew people on the board not opposed to pedigree breeding; but I'm afraid in the post quoted to exemplify why I think breeding is best suited to people who dedicate a lot of time and research into learning a lot before breeding.

If you do decide to go ahead I urge you to do so with the support of the breeders of the female dogs and use a well placed, healthchecked dog perhaps getting help in picking him out. I really think, even though I'm sure it is your dream, from what you have said you need to do a lot more research into the actual process of breeding, the biology involved and to know the lines of your breed as well as you can.

Rhetorically, has the breeder of your girls suggeste they are breeding quality (and are the endorsed? Does this happen with Chi's?)? Have they shown and placed well? When you watch classes of your breed do you consistantly tend to pick the winning and reserve dogs?

What are their conformational weaknesses (even great dogs can have tiny flaws) because this should help you choose the right boy.

Although it is uncomfortable being challenged I fundamentally all of us who choose to own pedigrees and vitally all of us who have had litters or want to, need to be able to accept and act to provide best moral defence against valid points from those who oppose: because sadly they are often right.

You might not have the skills now, but they are usually acquirable. It takes a good few years, a lot of time and a lot of people's opinion to understand the history and and health behind different lines, but showing peole tend to be pretty friendly and are always happy to talk about their breed. i presume you are a member of you breed club/society and are aware of what,if any, research is currently and recently done into common problems for your breed.

eta; i realise on re reading this might sound harsh. Its only half meant to. all good breeders start somewhere, but then so do all bad breeders! My post is not designed to be antagonistic but rather to provide some rhetorical questions for you to answer for yourself and to explain why, as a pedigree owner with an entire !!!!! who maywell have puppies, I think what people who are on the other side of the fence argue is important. Although I'm really familiar with the breed i was brought up with my girl is a different breed (same group) and even with a similar dog I find all the time I have so very much to learn, and I have some of the best mentors in the world!

Raksha

elvislover wrote: »

Why do i need to answer that question ??????
I didn't ask the breeder of my lovely dogs why she bred them !!!
Did you ????

just needed some advice on pet insurance not a lecture on why i shouldn't breed my dogs !!!!

You need to be able to answer that question because any responsible prospective owner who is coming to you to buy a puppy should be asking it.

The fact that you didn't ask the breeder of your dogs is your choice. What do you think their answer would have been?

Both my dogs are rescue dogs, so the situation didn't arise. My last puppy came from an accidental litter from a friends dog and cost me more in vets fees than any rescue.

I think you wanted some advice on insurance, but needed some advice on breeding, IMHO.