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Doing your own work = selling on problems.

Hi

I wonder if someone could shed any light on this for me.

If I do some minor alterations to our property and come to sell will I face any problems.

Basically, apart for the obvious I have installed new bathroom, kitchen, light fittings, moved sockets and changed an over the sink hot water heater to a hot water boiler (not over the sink!!).

If someone is to buy with a mortgage would anything crop up in this new building regs world.

When I bought this year I had been made aware of electrics are 7 years old, new windows. No certificates.
Not a problem with me but what about a building society.
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  • 03022242
    03022242 Posts: 351 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    as long as everything works i reckon it should be ok...

    if your worried that you didnt do a very good job, get an electricians to produce a certificate
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  • Zombies
    Zombies Posts: 77 Forumite
    edited 31 October 2009 at 12:14AM
    The work is bang on, i dont take on anything i'm not confident of doing.
  • wallbash
    wallbash Posts: 17,775 Forumite
    When I buy a house I look at location .
    If it did not have e,g a Fensa certificate , might use it to drive the price down ,
    but would still want the house. If the seller stuck with the price !! I would buy .

    quote new windows. No certificates. ...you bought , so will others.

    Betting my solicitor would kick up a fuss ( on my behalf :D ) but again , would still buy.

    Do the job , worry about it in the future .


    Ps will wait for the 'professionals' to scream :rotfl:
    They have a vested interest.

  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    wallbash wrote: »
    Do the job , worry about it in the future.
    Thats all very well except that for the last 5 years we've been stuck with the wretched Part P of the Building Regs and you will need to have certificates for your electrics. You cannot do electrical work in your bathroom, kitchen, put in new circuits or do any work at the consumer unit or out of doors without notifying the LABC under Part P and the work has to be done to the 17th Edition. You said you HAVE installed bathroom, kitchen etc. If the electrics were down before Part P came in you will be safe. In addition plumbing needs to meet water regs! If you are concerned about your electrics get an electrician to come in and do a PIR (periodic Inspection Report.
    Ps will wait for the 'professionals' to scream :rotfl:
    They have a vested interest.
    :rolleyes: Yeah right. Its got sod all to do with vested interests. A professional is liable in law if he does things illegally. I won't go to prison for anybody thanks very much!

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • wallbash
    wallbash Posts: 17,775 Forumite
    10 mins :j

    Who asked you to ??

    Dont tell me you cant sell houses without the paperwork ... I have .
  • Zombies
    Zombies Posts: 77 Forumite
    edited 31 October 2009 at 12:47AM
    now, now

    Aparently the elecs were replaced in 01
    but how can I prove that and how could a surveyor prove less than 5 years

    Also, i'm replacing a bathroom elec heater as well as the lights (i'm putting them as far away from water as is possible)
  • Sellers have to provide information about any work carried out on electrics etc and you will be expected to comply with the building regs part p for these.
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    edited 31 October 2009 at 11:03AM
    wallbash wrote: »
    10 mins :j

    Who asked you to ??

    Dont tell me you cant sell houses without the paperwork ... I have .
    A village somewhere is missing its idiot. :p

    Have you though about invalidating your house insurance with botched electrical work. No of course not. When it burns down then you'll get a nasty surprise.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • wallbash
    wallbash Posts: 17,775 Forumite
    Reply from the idiot !

    I fully rewired my mothers home over twenty years ago
    ( house still surviving , mother still breathing )
    I can easily sell that house .


    Rewired my kitchen three years ago
    Same person . same ( basically ) equipment .
    Wots the difference?

    Regulations is 'killing' the DIY handy man. We are bringing up a generation that
    has too pay , to get jobs done , that they should do.



    Sellers have to provide information


    Just reply ... Don't know

    Another example



    Two houses , both with newish windows
    One , nice area , close to a good school ,,,, but no paperwork

    Second House, next to a kebab shop , dog muck on steps, hypodermic needle on drive .... BUT its got all the paper work

    Which one would you buy??
  • Alan_M_2
    Alan_M_2 Posts: 2,752 Forumite
    edited 31 October 2009 at 11:52AM
    If you are unsure what you are allowed to do and what you're not allowed to do read the following very clear document:-

    http://www.stockport.gov.uk/2013/2994/developmentcontrol/14406/41351/partpelectricalsafety

    Cut and pasted some relevant sections below:-


    Do-It-Yourself Installation

    The rules do not prevent DIY installation. However, it is strongly recommend that professional advice is obtained from a qualified electrician, preferably a member of a Competent Persons Scheme. Persons undertaking DIY must provide evidence that the work has been carried out in accordance with BS7671. An application will have to be submitted with the applicable fee, together with an appropriate specification. It will be necessary to have the works inspected and tested, by a person qualified to do so. They will provide the appropriate certification, a copy of which must be forwarded to Building Control. Building Control will also undertake an appropriate inspection, by request, prior to the works being covered over and at completion. If the installation and documentation is satisfactory, you will be issued with a ‘Completion Certificate’ or ‘Completion Letter’ by the local authority which you will need if you sell your property

    Notice it says "Strongly recommended" i.e not a requirement.

    Effectively you can do whatever you like, but if you want to sell be prepared to have the work inspected and certified.

    The idea banded about by a lot of people that it's illegal to undertake the work unless you are Part P registered is misleading at best.
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