Car fraud

Premier_2

ahusband wrote: »

... i could take them to court, would they let it get that far? I work for a newspaper so could get them dragged through bad advertising...

You could ... and they would probably let you.
You do know how huge a group that company are don't you?
Their legal team will eat you for breakfast...after playing with you like a cat plays a mouse it has caught.

Tozer

Premier wrote: »

You could ... and they would probably let you.
You do know how huge a group that company are don't you?
Their legal team will eat you for breakfast...after playing with you like a cat plays a mouse it has caught.

To be fair, having been employed earlier in my career as an inhouse solicitor for a car manufacturer for several years, it is not cost-effective to defend small claims matters so they would settle immediately.

Premier_2

Tozer wrote: »

To be fair, having been employed earlier in my career as an inhouse solicitor for a car manufacturer for several years, it is not cost-effective to defend small claims matters so they would settle immediately.

The company is not a car manufacturer.

Which car manufacturer did you work for that doesn't defend any small claims? I'll get a few filed this evening. :rolleyes:

Tozer

Premier wrote: »

The company is not a car manufacturer.

Which car manufacturer did you work for that doesn't defend any small claims? I'll get a few filed this evening. :rolleyes:

It's the same industry. Thought that was obvious. I worked there when I was 3 years qualified. That was over 10 years ago and with the Civil Procedure Rules and the cost awards it simply isn't worth companies defending small claims claims.

I think you will find that there are not many big companies that bother to fight small claims. It simply isn't cost effective to get people like me to represent them charging £265 per hour plus VAT when no costs are awarded. Think about it, a £1k claim that will take 20 hours to defend. That will cost over £5k win or lose.

Oh, and believe me pal, you wouldn't win.

atrixblue.-MFR-.

IMHO if the money has been charged and accepted buy evans halshaw then theres a contract of sale, in wich they would have to agree to the price of the sale if you printed the original price out for a reciept and they have sent conformation via e-mail,or refund the money if it is a genuin mistake on their part.i would very much doubt that evans halshaw would go to small claims over this but i would like to say are you prepared to spend the money on that and having basically paid 4 or 5 grand after court for a 2500 grand car? or take back your deposit (if theyve taken it out of credit card account) tell them their useless and your going to motorpoint because youve found a better vehicle at the same price!!!

harveybobbles

ahusband wrote: »

thanks for reply, i paid £200 deposit with my credit card.

I have proof of initial online price, its changed now. I printed it out.

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Not got a leg to stand on then, sorry.

It's a very large grey area is the internet when it comes to cars prices and/or mileage.

If it was printed in the local paper then yes you'd have a good case!

Look on autotrader - how many cars do you see advertised as having 127 miles, when they really mean its done 127,000? The same for the price, lots of garages advertise cars at a low price on the autotrader to get their cars to the top of the search pages and then have the correct price stuffed somewhere in the description, like full service history, electric windows, 3995, blah blah blah.

Probably not the answer you wanted, but there ya go.

Also, if it did go down the Solicitors rtoute then they could argue the case and say "didnt you think it looked too cheap anyway"

Tozer

harveybobbles wrote: »

Not got a leg to stand on then, sorry.

It's a very large grey area is the internet when it comes to cars prices and/or mileage.

If it was printed in the local paper then yes you'd have a good case!

Look on autotrader - how many cars do you see advertised as having 127 miles, when they really mean its done 127,000? The same for the price, lots of garages advertise cars at a low price on the autotrader to get their cars to the top of the search pages and then have the correct price stuffed somewhere in the description, like full service history, electric windows, 3995, blah blah blah.

Probably not the answer you wanted, but there ya go.

Also, if it did go down the Solicitors rtoute then they could argue the case and say "didnt you think it looked too cheap anyway"

Difference here is that a) it wasn't an online purchase; and b) the contract was actually made. Read the first post - it is not simply a case of misleading advertising.

Premier_2

Tozer wrote: »

...Oh, and believe me pal, you wouldn't win.

You win any small claim by default (if you ask), when it is not defended.

I see you didn't tell me which company you say you worked for that doesn't defend any small claims. As it was over 10 years ago, how can you be sure such policy is still in place? Or perhaps they've already gone bust?

Edit: Oh, btw, if as you claim you were employed by the manufacturer as an in house solicitor, they wouldn't be paying you £265 per hour

Tozer

Premier wrote: »

You win any small claim by default (if you ask), when it is not defended.

I see you didn't tell me which company you say you worked for that doesn't defend any small claims. As it was over 10 years ago, how can you be sure such policy is still in place? Or perhaps they've already gone bust?

Edit: Oh, btw, if as you claim you were employed by the manufacturer as an in house solicitor, they wouldn't be paying you £265 per hour

Not sure I understand the first sentence.

I'm not going to publicly tell you where i worked. But no, they haven't gone bust. Thriving in fact.

No big company defends small claims unless there is a huge (precedent) reason to do so. Look at the bank charges reclaims.

Re your edit - I thought it was obvious that I have worked both inhouse and in private practice. Believe me, inhouse solicitors have got bigger fish to fry than defending <£5k claims.

harveybobbles

Tozer wrote: »

Difference here is that a) it wasn't an online purchase; and b) the contract was actually made. Read the first post - it is not simply a case of misleading advertising.

I didnt say it was an online purchase. What I was meaning was: If a car is advertised on the t'internet at £3.99, the garage doesnt have to sell it you for £3.99 if it was meant to be £3999. The internet and advertising is a very grey area.