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  • Zazen999
    Zazen999 Posts: 6,183 Forumite
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    mumslave wrote: »
    I wouldnt be interested if there WAS more to it than that, a good few people have said they wouldnt send their kids to a nursery where the SENIOR nurse is moaning to other staff about how she doesnt like the job and wants to change jobs...that has happened clearly from the OP. You can see exactly why the nursery would take a dim view of it and quite rightly so. Presumably this is a grown woman we are talking about here, pathetic all round.

    Jeez - string the woman up for having a conversation.

    [P.S. - I can read - I don't need you to keep putting senior in capitals]

    Why are they 'good' people for saying they wouldn't send their kids to a nursery when one nurse says they are looking for a new job. I've seen threads on here where the parents are having to ask whether having to sign off accidents on a weekly basis is enough to pull them out of nursery...oh - I suppose they are 'good' people because they agree with you. I see now.....point taken...
  • Vader123
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    Zazen999 wrote: »
    You were a bit fed up with your broadband this morning, so you started a thread on it. People do get fed up every now and then - it's not the crime of the century.

    Of course its not crime of century, no one has said this.

    But this lady works as a senior nursery nurse and by posting about whats happening at work on the internet is a big no-no.

    It reflects on the nursery and the running of the nursery. This could reflect on parents and carers of the children that attend.

    She has been stupid and should know better, but I bet she is beating herself up more.

    The consequences here are ernomous for the OPs friend, ignoring the fact for a minute that she could loose her job, and maybe her house etc, what about getting further employment, what will the reference be like?

    If she goes back with a slapped wrist, what will the atmosphere be like?

    Who could pick up on the bad vibes? The kids.

    Who might then pull their children out? The parents.

    Who then loses? The business.

    What does that mean? People loose their jobs.

    And why?!

    Because she posted information about work on a internet page. Was it worth it?

    Given the recent appalling case about a nursery worker and sharing media, the whole industry is twitched, didn't she pick up on this.

    Why can't she do like the rest of us and moan over a pint of beer or a glass of wine? Or hell, even speak to her manager and try and change things? Anything, repeat anything is better than posting about it on the internet.

    She was very silly and could pay the ultimate price.

    Vader
  • Zazen999 wrote: »
    Why are they 'good' people for saying they wouldn't send their kids to a nursery when one nurse says they are looking for a new job. I've seen threads on here where the parents are having to ask whether having to sign off accidents on a weekly basis is enough to pull them out of nursery...oh - I suppose they are 'good' people because they agree with you. I see now.....point taken...

    I believe "a good few" is just a regional expression, meaning "quite a few" rather than good in the virtuous sense.
  • Zazen999
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    She didn't post about what was happening at work on the internet.

    She said she was 'fed up' and 'x wants out' that could mean anything.

    She could have meant - I agreed to bake a cake and now I don't want to - so I'm 'fed up' and 'want out'.

    Taking this to its logical conclusion - no nursery worker should be allowed to have a facebook page - as anything they say could be mistaken and upset the parents. If that is the case, then the employer needs to be specific in their guidance.
  • Zazen999 wrote: »
    Taking this to its logical conclusion - no nursery worker should be allowed to have a facebook page - as anything they say could be mistaken and upset the parents. If that is the case, then the employer needs to be specific in their guidance.

    It sounds strange but that is probably the best idea. It is such a cut throat industry at the moment, and all the parents I know are worried sick about sending their children to nursery, especially given the recent publicity. There was an article in the paper just this morning where nursery staff forgot to bring a four year old back from a trip out, and it chilled me to the bone.

    This one fairly small issue re Facebook could be the downfall of the whole nursery, unfortunately.
  • Vader123 wrote: »
    by posting about whats happening at work on the internet is a big no-no.
    But according to the first post she didn't post about what was happening at work. She just said she was fed up. Didn't say what about.
    Vader123 wrote: »
    Why can't she do like the rest of us and moan over a pint of beer or a glass of wine?
    She could have been overheard in the pub or restaurant too. In fact it's more likely for a parent to be around and hear that, than a parent will be listening to a conversation between nursery colleagues during work time, or that they will be friends with the nursery staff on Facebook.
  • hothothot_3
    hothothot_3 Posts: 4,646 Forumite
    The chink in her defence is there is an actual witness to corroborate that she was fed up at work alongside the facebook thing.

    So the internet status is not the single piece of evidence, but it does corroborates her state of mind.
  • hothothot_3
    hothothot_3 Posts: 4,646 Forumite

    talking to another member of staff saying she disliked the job and was looking for a new one,

    The inevitable thing that will happen is she will be called in for a disciplinary meeting and asked to confirm or deny knowledge of this action.
  • mumslave
    mumslave Posts: 7,531 Forumite
    Zazen999 wrote: »
    Jeez - string the woman up for having a conversation.

    [P.S. - I can read - I don't need you to keep putting senior in capitals]

    Why are they 'good' people for saying they wouldn't send their kids to a nursery when one nurse says they are looking for a new job. I've seen threads on here where the parents are having to ask whether having to sign off accidents on a weekly basis is enough to pull them out of nursery...oh - I suppose they are 'good' people because they agree with you. I see now.....point taken...

    I am scottish, good few, means quite a few. I dont work with broad band so moaning about it has nothing to do with this post. When you work with peoples children, you are being given that parents trust to look after their kids, do you really think a nursery would not be furious to hear of a senior nurse going around whinging about her job to other staff members, presumably this in itself is in work time (not the facebook) when who knows whom else could hear. You dont have to like your job, no, but if you work in a care environment, only an idiot would whinge about it and not expect there to be repercussions. For example, little jimmy goes home to mummy and says, oh i dont like my nursery nurse, she was really grumpy with me this morning...say little jimmy made it up, perhaps nursery nurse wasnt...but the parent reports it to the nursery anyways, the nursery investigate and low and behold there so happens to be nursery nurse moaning about how she doesnt like her job and wants to change....doesnt look good does it?

    Thats just one example of how easy silly throwaway comments like that when you work in a care environment can easily become much bigger issues. I worked as a carer for the elderly and there were times the job really got to me, but I had the common sense not to go about moaning to other colleagues about it.

    And it still stands that no parent I know would want to send their child to a nursery where someone in the senior position is evidently so unhappy with her job she is broadcasting she is looking for another position. Most normal people would just keep their head down, look for another job and move on, not moan about it like one of the kids they look after. That in itself is what makes us adults, not children.
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  • hothothot wrote: »
    The chink in her defence is there is an actual witness to corroborate that she was fed up at work alongside the facebook thing.

    So the internet status is not the single piece of evidence, but it does corroborates her state of mind.

    I can't imagine this standing at all providing the SN has enough length of service to be entitled to her rights.

    Even if she said to her friend explicitly that the post of facebook referred to her job it is still not a sackable offense as to the public/other workmates on facebook it could mean anything.
    Like others have said if she posted it during work she is in trouble, as she could be if her conversation with her friend was too negative (or untruthful, or using bad language, or perceived as bullying) about the company.
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