More of a legal Police/rights question really...

babyangel10

Hi there,

My sister was recently issued with a 'Harassment Warning Notice' by the Police.

Obviously aint gonna bore you with the details but it's more or less a ticking off for being a pain in the ars3 towards someone - she wasn't threatening or whatever, just 'persistent'!

Anyway, I asked her if she has a copy of it so I can have a look and she hasn't been given one.

Does anyone know if she should have done? It wasn't a official caution or whatever, just the cop writing details in his book and she had to sign it (whether she wanted to or not apparently...)

Thanks all, sorry if in the wrong place - couldn't see where to put it!!! xxx

Anihilator

So your sister is harassing someone and you want to help her get out of it on a technicality.

How about getting her some professional help to sort out her issues instead?

KeithP

gertybertyangel wrote: »

Hi there,

My sister was recently issued with a 'Harassment Warning Notice' by the Police.

Obviously aint gonna bore you with the details but it's more or less a ticking off for being a pain in the ars3 towards someone - she wasn't threatening or whatever, just 'persistent'!

Anyway, I asked her if she has a copy of it so I can have a look and she hasn't been given one.

Does anyone know if she should have done? It wasn't a official caution or whatever, just the cop writing details in his book and she had to sign it (whether she wanted to or not apparently...)

Thanks all, sorry if in the wrong place - couldn't see where to put it!!! xxx

Maybe the reason you couldn't find the right place is because this has absolutely nothing to do with money saving.

babyangel10

Anihilator wrote: »

So your sister is harassing someone and you want to help her get out of it on a technicality.

How about getting her some professional help to sort out her issues instead?

I didn't say I wanted to help her get out of it!!!:eek:

Which bit of my question mentioned that??? You have just jumped to that conclusion!!! I just wanted to see her copy of it to see exactly what she has been done for, as her version of events totally differs from her ex friend's version. The harassment thing is such a grey area and all she has done is try to apologise for things that she didn't actually do in the first place but this 'friend' has twisted a situation to blame her.

babyangel10

KeithP wrote: »

Maybe the reason you couldn't find the right place is because this has absolutely nothing to do with money saving.

Yeah and that's helpful how exactly??? :rolleyes: Since when were you a mod?:mad:

There are plenty of posts on MSE that ARE NOT moneysaving, but that doesn't give 'people' like you the right to give rude replies.:rolleyes:

Ah well, I suppose these sort of useless replies like yours must be how you bump your post count up and that's probably what's more important to you :rolleyes:

kimmi_b

gertybertyangel wrote: »

Yeah and that's helpful how exactly??? :rolleyes: Since when were you a mod?:mad:

There are plenty of posts on MSE that ARE NOT moneysaving, but that doesn't give 'people' like you the right to give rude replies.:rolleyes:

Ah well, I suppose these sort of useless replies like yours must be how you bump your post count up and that's probably what's more important to you :rolleyes:

I don't think the post was meant to be rude - in fact that was exactly what I was thinking - I can't imagine that many people on this site would be in a position to advise on something like this.

Maybe you should try calling your local police station to see if they know if she should have received a copy?

hollydays

Presumably she could check who gave her the notice, she could get advice from a solicitor first.Are you saying there has been a mistake of sorts?

Meepster

As it's not an official warning, more of a ticking off, then no paperwork has to be given by the police. Basically a "Harassment Warning Notice" is a basic statement saying that she has been doing something wrong, and that she admits, by signing it, that she was in the wrong and that she won't do it again. Her details will be entered onto the PNC, with a note explaining the offence and warning given. This wont show up in ANY other matter (so if she got done for speeding, robbing a bank etc etc, it wouldn't be used against her) it's only brought up again in a similar harassment case.

The police don't issue paperwork for "slaps on the wrist" as if they did, they would spend 99% of their time doing paperwork, instead of 70%...

nic_santorini

there is nothing in the Harassment Act 1997 that states the police have to give a warning. It states if a person is harassed on more than one ocasssion, then a police officer could actually arrest and a person could be charged with the offence of Harassment, however in most cases (non-stalker) type when it has just begun, the police use a bit of common sense and issue a warning and this tends to stop the behaviour, if it doesn't then this acts as evidence to the 'more than 1 ocassion'. It is not something at the warning stage that anyone has to declare on job applications etc, it will only come back into play if your sister continues her behaviour against the said person. Hope this helps.

p.s. I know this site is called Money Saving Expert, but there are lots of forums on here for general chat and advise, so I have no problems answering your question.

babyangel10

Thanks very much for the useful replies.

The question wasn't asked because there may have been a way for her to 'get off' or a mistake made cos she admits doing this persons head in with 3 apology letters she sent (non threatening or rude BTW, just explanatory, but very long!!!) However, she didn't realise that sending nice letters was an offence as she wasn't purposely trying to cause distress or hurt.

We all just want the matter to drop, including the letter recipient, but I just wasn't sure whether she was supposed to have a copy for her own records really.

She did call the Police station 4 times and left her number as no-one was available to answer the question (which is fair enough) but they haven't yet called her back, that's why I thought I'd turn to the useful bods on here save the Police's time.

Thanks especially to the above 2 replies - very informative :beer:

dmg24

gertybertyangel wrote: »

She did call the Police station 4 times and left her number as no-one was available to answer the question (which is fair enough) but they haven't yet called her back, that's why I thought I'd turn to the useful bods on here!

I'm not making judgment, but perhaps calling the police station four times is a little excessive, and characteristic of her personality? Maybe she should have a chat with her GP about her overzealous persistence?