The London Mint Office - scam?

Penurious_Prince

I just read through this entired thread and wow, what a fun trip it's been

Now, I almost typed that I am now going to tell truth of what happened by comparison, to me but I won't phrase it like that. What I am doing is simply this:

I will now relate the truth, as I recall from my own experience of all communications and transactions.

Now, this exchange I saw above and have copied here, I find it a bit ridiculous honestly.

Before I share it let me qualify my statement by telling you I have quite a collection of the completely free coins. I have dealt with this company a lot lot LOT OF TIMES, so much so Right from the first email I got from them after I emailed them to get the very first transaction started, ... if my ageing brain(48!) is recalling correctly then it was a free coin with some kind of Celtic pattern on one side and our good ol Queen on the other.  It arrived quick and I remember being impressed with the fact that [I was only to pay £2.50 and that there really were ZERO catches. After I paid for that one I remember an emai  landing in my inbox, offering the country a free coin, for some reason or another to do with the Royal Family.Far from being a Royalist, I am a freeist and so began the longest, unplanned, rather random mostly very shiny and silver.

Some of them have a tiny oil painting of an Important British historical figure , enamelled painting of a typical UK Newspaper of the time, proclaiming  D-DAY! Or WAR IS OVER...I have coins with enamelled images that resemble tiny oils on canvas, others that have the more commonly seen embossed image, like how the queens head is always on our coins. I have so many War themed coins.. Dame Vera Lynne, a motif of a young soldier being carried over no man's land and back toward the trenches, silhouetted crucifixes at sunset.?. so many different coins. They do limit you to one free coin each time, so it means you can't have a collection!! That saddened me when I first realised it.  I mean, I do coin magic and what good is some beautiful shiny new coins if you can't use a set of them!!

One day I tried the link in the email offering me the latest free coin. I followed through and paid for it, securing one coin. Next day I opened that same email and clicked the link. Hooray! I was able to follow on and buy a second one!

I did this until I had four. Four lovely and very shiny new coins with Winston Churchill on one side.

A Set!!

DCFC79

Thread title is wrong, mint office isnt a scam.

accorian

Penurious_Prince said:

I just read through this entired thread and wow, what a fun trip it's been

Now, I almost typed that I am now going to tell truth of what happened by comparison, to me but I won't phrase it like that. What I am doing is simply this:

I will now relate the truth, as I recall from my own experience of all communications and transactions.

Now, this exchange I saw above and have copied here, I find it a bit ridiculous honestly.

Before I share it let me qualify my statement by telling you I have quite a collection of the completely free coins. I have dealt with this company a lot lot LOT OF TIMES, so much so Right from the first email I got from them after I emailed them to get the very first transaction started, ... if my ageing brain(48!) is recalling correctly then it was a free coin with some kind of Celtic pattern on one side and our good ol Queen on the other.  It arrived quick and I remember being impressed with the fact that [I was only to pay £2.50 and that there really were ZERO catches. After I paid for that one I remember an emai  landing in my inbox, offering the country a free coin, for some reason or another to do with the Royal Family.Far from being a Royalist, I am a freeist and so began the longest, unplanned, rather random mostly very shiny and silver.

Some of them have a tiny oil painting of an Important British historical figure , enamelled painting of a typical UK Newspaper of the time, proclaiming  D-DAY! Or WAR IS OVER...I have coins with enamelled images that resemble tiny oils on canvas, others that have the more commonly seen embossed image, like how the queens head is always on our coins. I have so many War themed coins.. Dame Vera Lynne, a motif of a young soldier being carried over no man's land and back toward the trenches, silhouetted crucifixes at sunset.?. so many different coins. They do limit you to one free coin each time, so it means you can't have a collection!! That saddened me when I first realised it.  I mean, I do coin magic and what good is some beautiful shiny new coins if you can't use a set of them!!

One day I tried the link in the email offering me the latest free coin. I followed through and paid for it, securing one coin. Next day I opened that same email and clicked the link. Hooray! I was able to follow on and buy a second one!

I did this until I had four. Four lovely and very shiny new coins with Winston Churchill on one side.

A Set!!

Such a shame that you've spent all that money, and all those years, deluding yourself into thinking you've been acquiring "coins". Because you haven 't.

The only place in the UK to get real, freshly issued actual "coins" which can, with luck, grow in value is here:

https://www.royalmint.com

The only business, in the entire UK, authorised to strike new coinage for circulation  as currency is:

https://www.royalmint.com

Anything pretending to be some kind of official entity (as in the word 'Office') is ipso facto a pretence.

That is: it's not genuine. It's not real. It's not to be trusted or even bothered with.

Looking back over all the years you've been handing money over to a privately owned business on an industrial trading site somewhere in Wales it's possible you'd by now have made a fair few bob on the limited editions which are honestly, legally and officially put together by The Royal Mint.

There is, in fact, nothing that the self-described "London Mint Office" does which the actual ROYAL MINT doesn't already do, only the Royal Mint doesn't seek to mislead folks about its actual identity and provenance, and also. . . it doesn't flog cheap souvenirs masquerading as a genuine coinage suitable for investment.

You claim to do magic tricks with coins; it rather seems that the London Mint Office has exerted powers far more magical than even yours in managing to extract so much from you over the years in terms of cash and customer support.

Penurious_Prince

Oh my god get over yourself. I know what a bloody coin is and I know what a representation of a coin is too. I use it(a representation, or NOVELTY) for magic tricks. Magicians always have, actually. I do hope you approve oh master.

Oh and a set of four winston Churchill COINS is a rather sought after set of NOVELTY coins. I have a feeling that now that I am using the word novelty you won't be losing the plot as much.

You seem to think your sarcastic knowledge is wanted. Not by me it isnt.

No reply would have been more interesting.

That isn't help, that thing you think you are doing here, its self-congratulatory ego massage.

As long as you enjoy it though, I'd say carry on.

And I have not spent a fortune on anything. I spent the postage and packing price on the coins that I find useful to use in certain magic plots and they serve me well. I do not need real coins for this and I have zero interest in their value going up because I bought them, sorry, received them for the price of p&p, with the sole intention of using them. They are the best practice coins also because they are the cheapest coins to drop and eventually ruin.

You might have a point if I we're actually looking to buy coins but as I am not, your insults are way over the top.

I think it is around now that I go and find out how to block someone insipid from the forum.

NBLondon

accorian said:

Such a shame that you've spent all that money, and all those years, deluding yourself into thinking you've been acquiring "coins". Because you haven 't.

The only place in the UK to get real, freshly issued actual "coins" which can, with luck, grow in value is here:

https://www.royalmint.com

Ahem...  They are coins.  They're just not currency or legal tender in  the UK.  These are coins issued by overseas authorities e.g.  Gibraltar.     Or do you think a stamp is not a stamp if it isn't issued by Royal Mail?

Collectability and the possible increase in value is basically down to how many other people might want to purchase them in future.  It probably isn't anything like the advertising implies though.

So if our magical chum has bought them as props for his act and he got a good price/deal for that purpose - he's doing the money saving thing.  Especially if this is a better deal than getting them from a prop-maker.

Lavendyr

This is what happened when I just tried to access their website after reading this thread. 

Spidermann

Lavendyr said:

This is what happened when I just tried to access their website after reading this thread. 

That might be because you have entered the wrong website address.
The correct one is londonmintoffice.org (without the .uk at the end).

Lavendyr

Ah thanks. I think I just clicked through from one of the earlier hyperlinks.

Penurious_Prince

NBLondon said:

accorian said:

Such a shame that you've spent all that money, and all those years, deluding yourself into thinking you've been acquiring "coins". Because you haven 't.

The only place in the UK to get real, freshly issued actual "coins" which can, with luck, grow in value is here:

https://www.royalmint.com

Ahem...  They are coins.  They're just not currency or legal tender in  the UK.  These are coins issued by overseas authorities e.g.  Gibraltar.     Or do you think a stamp is not a stamp if it isn't issued by Royal Mail...

So if our magical chum has bought them as props for his act and he got a good price/deal for that purpose - he's doing the money saving thing.  Especially if this is a better deal than getting them from a prop-maker.

Exactly right. Buying novelty or otherwise coins to do magic can cost a small fortune. In fact most magicians go the route of using silver Morgan dollars and they cost a large fortune. Way out of my range. So yes, I am saving money for sure and also able to use coins that pretty much no one else has and the people seem to like a lot.

warmonkey

I was having a look at 20cogs and these guys were listed as a deal. 20 cogs seem to have a good set of companies tied up to it so I didn't check being half asleep. I ran through their form and didn't fill in any payment info I don't even think I hit submit. I didn't think anything of it and received an email a couple of days ago stating a coin will be sent out in 28 days or so after forgetting all about this. Looking this up today it seems it's anything but a legitimate company. I have read through this thread end to end and they sound awful so I guess I am about to have a painful time.

From what I can see to get out of this people have:
- asked to cancel any subscription-based service (Done)
- asked to not receive a coin, asked to cancel the order - (DONE)
- anything received is sent back to them recorded and insured.
- anything that appears at the door from royal mail don't sign for this and ask the postman to send it back.