The London Mint Office - scam?

codger

Ronsky wrote: »

As a plumber, they called me to do a job.....it’s just a glorified scrap yard... with dustbin upon dustbin full of blank coin cut outs..... security was pretty lax.... you knew everything was tat just by looking at the display cabinets.....

It's as my mother always told me: Be sure your bins will find you out.

micky69

The london mint is a big scam the value of the coins are worthless ie i had two coins paid nearly four hundred pounds for each of them i had them valued the gold content one was worth sixty pounds and one was worth seventy pound so that makes the presentation case worth more than the coins at over three hundred pounds and thats not all they keep hounding me for payments i have made so now i ignor them then they send me an offer of a free coin you pay the postage they take your postage but never send the coin which is against trading standards so for any one thinking of having anything to do with the london mint think again because you will only live to regret it it should be shut down for its dishonesty

micky69

If they send you coins that you have not ordered dont send them back because the law says it is illegal to send unsolicted coin or anything that you have not ordered send them an email saying for them to arrange collection and they pay the postage and that came off a legal site i was on they will soon stop sending stuff

shaun_from_Africa

micky69 wrote: »

If they send you coins that you have not ordered dont send them back because the law says it is illegal to send unsolicted coin or anything that you have not ordered send them an email saying for them to arrange collection and they pay the postage and that came off a legal site i was on they will soon stop sending stuff

If you receive a coin that you have not asked for and it hasn't been sent in error then you don't need to contact the sender and ask them to arrange collection as you are legally entitled to keep it.
However, when ordering anything from companies such as The London Mint, there is normally part of the order process in which you agree to receive further items on approval for you to look at and if you don't wish to keep them, you are required to return them.

If you receive coins (or other items) like this then they do not class as unsolicited goods and if you don't want to keep and pay for them then you have to follow whatever the laid down returns procedure is.

GrumpyPig

Meh, I'm another who fell into the free coin trap.

Before today I last heard from them the 13th December apologising for late dispatch and advising me I should receive the free coin within 28 days. Obviously that has passed and I forgot all about it until today when I received an e-mail wanting payment for postage. Considering the length of time I've spent receiving nothing I decided something smelt fishy and alas I found this thread, to find it really stinks.

So payment for postage is due 2nd February, do I wait until then to e-mail and state nothing has arrived and I now wish to cancel this order and any ties with their company or do I just crack on and do it immediately? Will unsubscribing on their website make any difference?, I don't suppose it will. Any other advice would also be welcomed, thanks in advance.

BLICBLAKBLOC

I'm seeing a new one lately called Hattons of London where you can buy 2 grams of 22k gold for £95 at a saving of £100 which is strange because 2 grams of gold is worth less than £60 you can buy brand new 2.5 gram 24k gold coins for around £70. The asa has already ruled against them for false advertising steer clear.

shaun_from_Africa

BLICBLAKBLOC wrote: »

I'm seeing a new one lately called Hattons of London where you can buy 2 grams of 22k gold for £95 at a saving of £100 which is strange because 2 grams of gold is worth less than £60 you can buy brand new 2.5 gram 24k gold coins for around £70. The asa has already ruled against them for false advertising steer clear.

But in the case you mention, you are not simply buying 2 grams of 22k gold.
You are buying a quarter sovereign coin containing 2 grams of 22k gold.
https://hattonsoflondon.co.uk/product/2019-britannia-gold-quarter-sovereign/

Still hugely expensive but this is generally the case for all collectible limited edition gold and silver coins which is why they shouldn't be purchased simply for their metal content.

Jointhediscussion

Send the coin back to their new address (2019):

Daniel Penney (Managing Director)
The London Mint Office
Motaquote House
Dinas Isaf Industrial Estate,
Williamstown,
Tonypandy
CF40 1NY

The London mint office is part of The Samlerhuset Group (A Norwegian company). They chose the name 'London Mint Office' and set-up offices in the South Wales Valleys to deceive people into believing they have something to do with "THE ROYAL MINT".

Greg Prosser (Former MD of The London Mint Office, is now CEO of Samlerhuset Group)

All of their non-uk legal tender coins which we are made to believe are UK-Legal-Tender are struck by The Tower Mint in London (again, not an official mint) who strike coins with issuing authorities like 'Gibraltar' and 'Jersey' and 'Guernsey' - making them worthless.

Unfortunately they pray on the old and vulnerable and take 10's of £1000.00's per day from them.

They advertise a free coin, filter the people who wish to purchase the following coins - then seek out the un-savy innocent pensioners with savings and force some old collectable coins at 5 x the mark up on them leaving them £1000's out of pocket.

Their Facebook and google reviews are manipulated by them using fake and bought reviews to hide the 1-star genuine reviews. They attempted this with TrustPilot but were caught out.

The FCA withdrew their license to trade in 2018 so they are not regulated.
They have appeared on Rip Off Britain, BBC Watch Dog, Which? Magazine Scams and also received 100's of Official Trading Standards Complaints.

If you want to buy coins - go along to the real mint - The Royal Mint.

Paul251

I bought a 2019 into the dragons liar half sovereign. Things dont add up.
My insurance company says its not a real coin. So I look on the website. No mention of the half sovereign anymore. There is a quarter sovereign for sale, but the details are wrong.
My half sovereign is 19.3mm diameter. 3.99g weight.
the quarter sovereign on sale. 22.05mm and 7.8g. a real quarter sovereign is 13.5mm diameter and only 2g in weight.
which means the quarter now on sale is nearly twice the weight and nearly 3mm larger than the half sovereign they sent me....

hybernia

Paul251 wrote: »

I bought a 2019 into the dragons liar half sovereign. Things dont add up.
My insurance company says its not a real coin. So I look on the website. No mention of the half sovereign anymore. There is a quarter sovereign for sale, but the details are wrong.
My half sovereign is 19.3mm diameter. 3.99g weight.
the quarter sovereign on sale. 22.05mm and 7.8g. a real quarter sovereign is 13.5mm diameter and only 2g in weight.
which means the quarter now on sale is nearly twice the weight and nearly 3mm larger than the half sovereign they sent me....

Unfortunately, Paul, you seem to be making the mistake of regarding the "coin" as being something of genuine provenance and genuine worth. But it has neither. The London Mint Office is a name deliberately chosen and used to mislead the unwary into thinking that (a) it's "official" (b) it's in London (c) it is licensed to produce coinage that's legal tender.

None of the foregoing is true. It's a business whose actual connection to coins of the realm is primarily to pocket as much of those itself. There's no reason why a London Mint Office quarter sovereign should be vieweby anyone as a serious, credible entity, when it's anything but, and no reason why this firm should not make up coin names and coin dimensions as it goes along (it seems to, anyway).

Your Dragons' Liar description is especially felicitous: well done. though am a bit surprised your insurer would take seriously the wares of this outfit.

As has been the case for a long time, those with an interest in different kinds of mint, be they official, or in London, or neither, may find there's more value for money in a packet of Polos by Rowntree / Nestle.