CSA break undertaking to MP

DX2

bigwheels36 wrote: »

Blob, I support you 100%, i am still serving 23 yrs and had CSA as a NRP since 1993. I have not seen or know of my children's address, but pay £600 per month. I had letters sent to me in Bosnia in ealry 90's and in Ireland before the peace process. Wrote a letter to them (CSA) in Early Sept Huh no reply as yet! I hope you win your case and argument .

And in 2009 they are not allowed to get in contact with a NRP who is serving in the front line.

Blob

LS, I was and am still known as the 'ICEMAN' for my detached attitude, and what some think is a very cold attitude to life, what I have done and seen done has made me that way and I have no moral problems with that. After all death is just natures way of telling you that it is time to slow down, and natures way of telling you that you have been in a fire fight is a 'sucking chest wound'! Sorry if that offends some people but that is just the way it is and is seen by people that went through the wars and ops that I did!

I am told that I have a very dangerious outlook on life again, life has made me what I am, and I make no appoligy for this, we fought for this country and killed the enemies of this country, as our brothers in arms and sisters did before us, we in my day were ruthless in this and I am sure that this will upset some people, but by the time that the Royal Marines were sent in it was past the time of 'lets sit down for a cup of coffee and talk this through'! We did however keep to the rules of war! Such as ther are!

From my experiances in life and haveing seen my friends die, 5 in total, that is not counting the wounded, for this country. I have a major problem in any org that then trys to undermine the guys that puts the lives of people that fight for this country in more danger!

DX2 In principal I agree with you, so why should they have their lives put at more risk than they are by the enemys of the country. Though more inportantly and Kelloggs has agreed with this point, why should people that get DLA [civies] get a better deal than those with a War Pension, because they got wounded in defence of this country. A War Pension is the same as DLA, but DLA is exempt from CM where as War Pension only gets a £10 disreguard and is then hit in my case at 30% min! They discriminate against us not the other way round, we paid and now have to pay again, why?

Steve40, Yes that thought has crossed the mind of a number of my former comrades and I know that it is a question that is asked by a number of the young people that are on teh front line as is today.

Lastly, I would point out that I was quoted in the papers last week on the way that guys coming back from ops will act and how their families can expect them to have changed! A number of people that have been in combat that know me, and yes we tend to keep togeather, have all said that it is good to hear someone tell it is it actually is and this is a new slant on things and to keep it up! At least 2 of us have nearly killed members of our fasmilys, how would you feel if it were you in that situation! I know of people that killed children or mamed them on their return from WW2 that took their own lives for what they had done to a child who was only playing with them but got them off guard!

If some of the things I say on this point upset people I make no appoligy as it is just the way it is from my point of view as one that has been there!

DX2

Blob nothing upsets me about your posts I just don't agree with any of what you have said regarding the forces, of course this is my opinion and I am entitled to it as you are to yours.

Blob

I accept that, but as you said there should be no special treatment for the forces, all I ask for is a level playing field and as you have said we should not get different treatment, so why do we, when it comes to disability pensions?

If we went after the CSA as they go after us people would be crying out for the abolition of the CSA as we would use the training that we have had from the Gov against them! They should be greatful we don't!

plimsoll

Blob - the DLA vs War Pensions bit I agree with.

The rest are you planning on trying to get anyone (wives, gfs, friends etc etc) who had an argument with a soldier that may have affected their concentration prosecuted for "giving aid to the enemy" too???

Blob

No as they have not by and large tried do anything except get free and live a life of their own. Where the CSA has hounded the forces people as well as the husbands and boyfriends as there are now women on the front line and they are under fire as well and they have their lives put at risk just the same by the actions of the CSA.

Please remember that it is both Wives,G/F's as well as Husbands and B/F's that are left behind in this day and age!

LizzieS_2

Actually Blob I like your post, even though I disagree with you on the subject in hand.

Icemen is exactly what I think of our forces to be and what I understood them trained to be - all of them. I really did think the forces did not employ people who could be weak due to their own emotions elsewhere, whether it be csa or some other matter, or if they did initially they would soon oust those back to civvy street.

Of course, any forces personnel who begrudges the amount/calculation is going to agree with you - that is natural as they are the ones hoping to gain from your invovlement.

You are effectively going into a meeting stating that certain personnel are incapable of acting as trained. That in itself could result in some being forced out of jobs they love.

The csa is a minor part of forces lives (as a whole), if as you claim not all are strong enough to keep away from their emotions on duty due to the csa, surely there will be far more who get distracted by other events in their lives.

I hate to say it, but the only way to avoid forces personnel from having to avoid personal issues is to avoid their ability to create those issues, eg ban relationships.

DX2

Blob wrote: »

I accept that, but as you said there should be no special treatment for the forces, all I ask for is a level playing field and as you have said we should not get different treatment, so why do we, when it comes to disability pensions?

If we went after the CSA as they go after us people would be crying out for the abolition of the CSA as we would use the training that we have had from the Gov against them! They should be greatful we don't!

You shouldn't be treated differently but we both know the forces are reated differently As for disability pensions that is something that needs to be addressed with your employer *the government*

DX2

plimsoll wrote: »

Blob - the DLA vs War Pensions bit I agree with.

The rest are you planning on trying to get anyone (wives, gfs, friends etc etc) who had an argument with a soldier that may have affected their concentration prosecuted for "giving aid to the enemy" too???

I would have been prosecuted years ago :whistle:

LizzieS_2

For the pensions, again your remit is limited to just the forces (understand your reasons).

DLA is available to anyone meeeting the criteria.

War pensions are paid to supplement income due to loss of employment through injury - so are many other private pensions. Only saying here if you fight for one, you are better fighting for all as that would give a better chance of success (though I admit I am divided as to whether you would win as effectively the child is suffering through no fault of their own either).