MSE News: London tube and bus fares to rise

Premier_2

Ah yes, the buses.

How much does designing & building a new RouteMaster cost? Has BJ said yet? Tfl say it'll cost £12m just to cover the cost of replacing the existing bendy buses. Oh well, BJ did say it'll take 12 years to get a new RouteMaster, but he won't even say whether he be standing for re-election in a couple of years time. (I suppose it depends on whether "Dave" offers him a post in cabinet)

How much revenue will be lost when BJ abolishes the western extension to the congestion zone next year? Lets ignore the loss in revenue by BJ not adopting the £20 charge for the Chesea Tractors, eh? Well BJ seemed to! :cool:

poorbabe

I'm guessing more cycles/bikes/scooters on the roads come January!

terryya

I must have missed all the dedicated threads for the price rises that every other part of the country has experienced over the last year or so!

Sol00

flyingscotno1 wrote: »

London bus transport is some of the cheapest and most frequent service in Britain. Yes it is slow like other buses, but I'm paying £1.60 for just under 2 miles on the crowded Glasgow buses- and unlike London they aren't relativily new. Even the Tube on Oyster is good value compared to here, £1.20 single on our toy town network of 6 miles or something and only £1.60 there for all zone 1. Even season tickets are good value in comparison- I suppose that is the upside to living in London that at least the fares aren't expensive if everything else is!

A large amount of Glasgow's buses are new or newish, at least with First anyway.

AirlieBird

So, let's see...

50p discount on Oyster PAYG cap compared with the equivalent paper travelcard will be withdrawn.
£1 child travelcard will be withdrawn
One-day paper bus pass will be withdrawn

flyingscotno1

Sol00 wrote: »

A large amount of Glasgow's buses are new or newish, at least with First anyway.

Define 'large amount' and 'newish'. They are crapped out (ex-London!) buses on the major route near me.

tradetime

Ah yes, more evidence of the dastardly, deadly effects of deflation. :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Premier_2

poorbabe wrote: »

I'm guessing more cycles/bikes/scooters on the roads come January!

Yes, despite the apparent blackhole the finances BJ keeps banging on about, he's splashing out on 6000 new bikes for London. However, when asked in a recent LBC interview, he didn't know how much they cost each.
Even Nick Ferrarri, well known for his conservative beliefs, couldn't stop himself giving BJ a ribbing over that.

RichyRich

£1.20 is still incredibly good value for a single bus journey. It includes journeys such as Ilford to Oxford Circus and Wembley to Euston - a similar length journey in, say, Fife would be about £4.

The difference, of course, is that in London everyone pays for public transport whether they use it or not through their Council Tax, whereas everywhere else in the country it is paid for mainly by the people who use it (except in the case of socially necessary services secured by the local authority).

A £1.20 bus fare doesn't look so rosy accompanied by a £1,030 Council Tax bill for a one bedroomed flat in Bow!

movilogo

The difference, of course, is that in London everyone pays for public transport whether they use it or not through their Council Tax, whereas everywhere else in the country it is paid for mainly by the people who use it (except in the case of socially necessary services secured by the local authority).

What is the source of this info?

Anyway, I don't have children but I pay for schools via council tax in my local town. I think those whose children go to schools should pay for fees directly. In same way, Firebrigade should be paid by only whose houses are on fire, isn't it?