Advise wanted, drugs prison and blindness!

Pee

You can't legally lose your job because of an offence commited by what appears to be a fairly casual, as yet anyway, girlfriend.

If you back away, either your family member will find that this person is not for him, being a lying, cheating, out of their heads individual and will move on to someone else or they will get to know them better and love them better the more they know of them.

If you force the issue, you will push them together whether it's right or wrong.

My parents did this to me when I was with my ex.

What truth do you need to know about a relatives girlfriend anyway?

Tom1234

You can't legally lose your job because of an offence commited by what appears to be a fairly casual, as yet anyway, girlfriend.

You can however be denied government security clearance due to yourself or a partner being seen to have 'links to criminal organisations' or 'being susceptible to bribery or blackmail'.

I agree tho, it's not really any of your concern.

McKneff

Mind your own business, they need to make their own mistakes.
They will do what they want no matter who says what to them.
You cannot protect them.

Interfere too much and you will alienate them, they will do a runner and you wont see them for 20 years.

Like i say, its none of your business.

Butt out.

lynzpower

Tom1234 wrote: »

You can however be denied government security clearance due to yourself or a partner being seen to have 'links to criminal organisations' or 'being susceptible to bribery or blackmail'.

I agree tho, it's not really any of your concern.

You can still get government clearance ( of the highest level) with minor drug convictions and other minor criminal convictions. Not sure about prison though.

I agree with others, im afraid its not the OPs business.

Sarah_Joanne

I would suggest turning your focus to being there to support this family member for when the poo hits the fan.

You will no doubt fair better by letting them know you want them to be happy and that they can come to you at any time, for anything, without you judging them than let them know you completely disapprove of their partner and wish themto split up. As has been said earlier the latter is more likely to push them together than split them up, as even the most mature 20 year olds can get really quite defensive when questioned heavily about their relationship choices.

The hardest thing to do is sit back and watch when you know it's the wrong decision for them, but it really is the best for both in the long run.

Artytarty

when my bro applied to the F.O. we were all vetted, wider family circle that is.and it went WAY back!

babymoo

What your family member's partner is doing/has done against the law will not affect and never can affect your family member's career. IF you were worried about them affecting your chances of adopting children then this may be an issue but it isn't. Has the family member's partner learnt his/her lesson. Are they on the straight and narrow? Do they deserve a second chance as everyone messes up their lives at some point.

My brother is currently in a YOI for drug offences. He has changed, deeply regrets everything he has done and we as a family are willing to accept he has changed and give him another chance. He is due to be released next week and I am well aware of the fact that there will be a lot of prejudice around this but he has done his time for his crime. Perhaps this is what your family member's partner needs is a break to move on? Perhaps your family member might be the one to help keep this individual on the straight and narrow?

Just a thought or two

carolinosourus

If an individual is subject to a suspended sentence order or a community order and misses 2 or more appointments of supervision or any other requirement which is part of their order (of course medical and valid reasons are excused), they will be breached, returned to court and the judge may decide to sentence them to prison as they are not taking the order imposed on them by the court seriously. it is highly unlikely and in fact illegal if they are sent to prison for no reason, which is why I find it likely that you are not being told the full story. This order may have been breached a few times and the judge got so frustrated that he sent the individual to prison, or the individual may have been on licence (ie been in prison, served half the sentence then released on licence), not complied with a licence condition or committed another offence, so was returned to prison.

Unfortunately there is no way you as a member of the public can gain access to an individual's record, you have to get a police officer to print a copy off the PNC (Police National Computer) database.

amandada

carolinosourus wrote: »

Unfortunately there is no way you as a member of the public can gain access to an individual's record, you have to get a police officer to print a copy off the PNC (Police National Computer) database.

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...which is completely and utterly in breach of data protection, and traceable to the person who does the PNC enquiry, who will at the very LEAST face disciplinary action.

(by the way, it doesn't have to be a police officer who accesses the PNC)

carolinosourus

amandada wrote: »

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...which is completely and utterly in breach of data protection, and traceable to the person who does the PNC enquiry, who will at the very LEAST face disciplinary action.

(by the way, it doesn't have to be a police officer who accesses the PNC)

As I'm a Probation Officer I think it's ok in my case :rolleyes: (oh, a PLO can also access this which is how the CPS get records of previous convictions at court to give to judges to inform their sentencing and probation so that they are able to write reports...)

I wasn't saying that the OP should go off and ask an officer to print an individual's record off the PNC, I think you must have misunderstood, I was simply informing the OP of how the system works.