PCN spelling errors/done in MS Excel (image inc) - but is it legitimate?

BFG_2

oldone wrote: »

BFG You are behaving like a troll. If you can't contribute anything constructive stay away from these threads.

Often people who receive a ticket from a PPC are frightened and feel vulnerable and intimidated. They are certainly not 'Streetwise' enough to think of reading stickies that may or may not apply to them.

Presumably you would prefer newcomers to just read the stickies and then go away without posting.

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If they are 'streetwise' enough to find a forum called

Motoring, Public Transport & Cycling (157 Viewing)
A special section just for discussing motoring and public transport

with a sub board called
Sub-boards: Parking Fines, Tickets & Parking

and then able to register,

then surely they can't be in such a state of 'shock' and 'fear of the big bad parking compnaies' that they can't read a big post called

Sticky: ● Welcome! *PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING*

whichs says

Private Parking Companies (PPCs)
(Read Martin's Article)

1) PPC tickets (referred to by some as toilet paper ) are NOT fines or fixed penalties, they are invoices based on a presumed contract with the driver.

2) When posting, please don't mention your vehicle make/model or exact location and most importantly do NOT say who was driving. PPC trolls do read these and other forums and may try to use this information against you. Do not post any info that may identify you. It isn't usually necessary to post the 'ticket' from a PPC.

3) PPC charges have been shown to be generally unenforceable in Court, and they hardly ever issue proceedings, despite the threats in their intimidatory letters.

4) Do NOT write to the PPC to 'appeal' the ticket - the appeals process is a complete sham, they just want your money and thus will reject the 'appeal'.

5) If you don't take action on the ticket, the PPC will get the registered keeper's details from the DVLA, for a fee of £2.50. The registered keeper has no liability, since the presumed contract was formed with the driver. And, if you don't tell the PPC who was driving, they don't have a case.

6) Opinions vary on this point, but generally the best advice is to ignore all correspondence they send you, and they will give up after 5 or 6 scary looking letters.

And they can link from this post to read martins article....

After that if they still want hand holding and reassurance, by all means they could start their own thread' ...........................as they are asked to do in several other big, sticky postings [that they seem incapbale of reading either.]


Just a few thoughts...

bw1972

to be fair chap i was just trying to hear what happened to person at same carpark, so i had read the threads in question and hence i found this one. TBH i didnt understand what u were on about in ur initial reply though, although i do now so thx for the comment:T

BTW we may have been in the car park, but it wasnt me who was driving/ticketed anyway, and it was only me pointing out tickets are a load of !!!! that my friend hasnt paid up.

sir_neemz

a bump for this thread.

my girlfriend was ticketed last weekend by this private company. have any of the original posters who failed to pay up receieved any follow up action at all?

BFG_2

Dear sirneemz

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Please start a new thread for your case (if you post in the discussion threads your post will not be seen by many) and take a look at these two threads which will be of assistance:

List of Terms/Acronyms/Abbreviations Used on this Board

How to Upload & Post Images (PCN/NtO/other paperwork)

Council Penalty Charge Notices (PCNs)

(Read Martin's Article)

1) SCAN the PCN (front and back) together with any other paperwork (200dpi should be fine). Pictures of the parking bay/signs/lines will also help.

2) BLANK out personal details (i.e. PCN serial number, car registration number, any name/address details) using Paint or equivalent image editing program to remove appropriate details.

3) UPLOAD to image hosting site and link from your thread - simply copy and paste the "direct link for layout" link which looks something like this: http://tinypic.com/xxxxxxxxx.jpg.

For detailed help with scanning, erasing and uploading, please see this thread:
How to Upload & Post Images (PCN/NtO/other paperwork)

4) MENTION which council issued the PCN/NtO if you're unable to scan paperwork.

Private Parking Companies (PPCs)
(Read Martin's Article)

1) PPC tickets (referred to by some as toilet paper ) are NOT fines or fixed penalties, they are invoices based on a presumed contract with the driver.

2) When posting, please don't mention your vehicle make/model or exact location and most importantly do NOT say who was driving. PPC trolls do read these and other forums and may try to use this information against you. Do not post any info that may identify you. It isn't usually necessary to post the 'ticket' from a PPC.

3) PPC charges have been shown to be generally unenforceable in Court, and they hardly ever issue proceedings, despite the threats in their intimidatory letters.

4) Do NOT write to the PPC to 'appeal' the ticket - the appeals process is a complete sham, they just want your money and thus will reject the 'appeal'.

5) If you don't take action on the ticket, the PPC will get the registered keeper's details from the DVLA, for a fee of £2.50. The registered keeper has no liability, since the presumed contract was formed with the driver. And, if you don't tell the PPC who was driving, they don't have a case.

6) Ignore the ticket completely until they've bought your details from the DVLA (costs just £2.50) and write to the registered keeper. Opinions vary on whether to send a template letter in reply or simply ignore all correspondence, however, anecdotal evidence from this forum and Pepipoo indicates that with the 'ignoring everything' option they will give up after a few scary looking letters and false threats of bailiffs/CCJs/credit record entries.

(thanks to bargepole for help in compiling the PPC section above)
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trisontana

sir_neemz wrote: »

a bump for this thread.

my girlfriend was ticketed last weekend by this private company. have any of the original posters who failed to pay up receieved any follow up action at all?

I imagine the only thing they have received are letters which say lots of things but mean nothing in law. Hopefully they have just ignored them.

biscuitdunker

Haha looking at that "PCN" made my day

bw1972

bfg a bit quick on the splatting again :cool:



i know the driver who parked there with me has recieved nowt from the magnet !!!!! :rotfl:

sir_neemz

bw1972 wrote: »

bfg a bit quick on the splatting again :cool:



i know the driver who parked there with me has recieved nowt from the magnet !!!!! :rotfl:

thanks for that, appreciate the response.

and thanks to everyone else for posts, i will advise her to ignore.

Ghostdivision

Bump!

Newbie here. I just got one from the same company at the same site about 20 minutes ago. There's a sign up on one of the pillars but you can't read it upon entry into the car park. I'd just stopped off in Sainsbury's to get something for dinner that evening - I'd parked there many, many times before and nobody batted an eyelid.

One thing of note is that they've now added a red paragraph saying that "Magnet, Sainsbury's or Euro Car Parks can or will not discuss any issues you may have with this ticket." They've also corrected one or two of the spelling mistakes.

Yep, it's a chancer. I'm going to keep it on file and ignore it.

EDIT: They have also added a telephone number. I rang it and, without ringing, it went straight to a recording without the ability to leave a text.