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  • mitchaa
    mitchaa Posts: 4,487 Forumite
    Cleaver wrote: »

    If I was more of a cynic Mitchaa I would conclude that your passionate posting on this subject suggests that maybe you still live with your parents.

    That's it, you've got it in 1. My wife, child and I all share a room in my parents home:rolleyes:

    Yes, I do have an attitude as in my opinion anyway by the time you get to your mid 20's you should be capable of standing on your own 2 feet and supporting yourself.

    Anyway, this is going off topic, Skap clearly doesn't live with his parents.
  • Cleaver
    Cleaver Posts: 6,989 Forumite
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    mitchaa wrote: »
    Yes, I do have an attitude as in my opinion anyway by the time you get to your mid 20's you should be capable of standing on your own 2 feet and supporting yourself.

    My friends who live at home with their parents do stand on their own two feet and do support themselves. If their parents kicked them out tomorrow they are capable, intelligent, mature adults, so they would get jobs and find a place to live. At the moment they have other priorities which means they pay rent to their parents which is helping them to achieve certain goals. Everyone's happy and they will probably go on to buy places. I don't think they deserve being laughed at for any reason.

    I don't normally agree with all of the 'debt-junkie' generalistic rubbish that gets thrown around on here, but assessing someone as being able to 'stand on their own two feet' by whether they have moved out from their parents to their own home is not an accurate measure. If moving out means taking out a debt that you're not sure you can pay back then you're not really standing on your own two feet, are you?

    By the way, if you told my friend who is living at home to look after his very ill mother that he can't support himself or stand on his own two feet, you'd get a much more robust response from him than you're getting from me.
  • mitchaa
    mitchaa Posts: 4,487 Forumite
    Cleaver wrote: »

    By the way, if you told my friend who is living at home to look after his very ill mother that he can't support himself or stand on his own two feet, you'd get a much more robust response from him than you're getting from me.

    Now now, there is clearly a difference between someone caring for the sick/disabled/elderly to someone free loading off their parents so dont go down that path.

    Yes, i do look at people past mid 20's and wonder why on earth they are still living at home. If you're not paying normal everyday bills and not putting a roof over your own head you are not standing on your own 2 feet in my opinion.

    Anyway, had enough, im off home to the wife and the little 1. I may even walk round the whole house in the buff just because I can:D

    Night folks:p;)
  • Cleaver
    Cleaver Posts: 6,989 Forumite
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    mitchaa wrote: »
    Yes, i do look at people past mid 20's and wonder why on earth they are still living at home.

    Erm, because of all the reasons listed in my post above?
    mitchaa wrote: »
    Anyway, had enough, im off home to the wife and the little 1. I may even walk round the whole house in the buff just because I can:D

    All my friends living at home can do that too. Not sure they would want to, but I'm sure they can...
  • ess0two
    ess0two Posts: 3,606 Forumite
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    Cleaver wrote: »
    Erm, because of all the reasons listed in my post above?



    All my friends living at home can do that too. Not sure they would want to, but I'm sure they can...


    As a side note i was never allowed girlfriends etc,staying over at my parents.
    Rather sealed my fate and i moved out at 21,best decision ever,i get on well with my parents,perhaps they did me a favour.
    Can see where Mitch is coming from.
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  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    edited 1 October 2009 at 5:02PM
    When I returned to live at home with my parents it was a huge surprise to me, and while it could have been avoided, it certainly helped me, as I was at that time still unable to communicate very well and certainly not get around relaibly independantly.

    Then when I came back while DH was abroad it was also helpful to me,similar situation, less serious, but renting here alone while house hunting questions arose about things like my still common medical treatment and other minor practicalities. I think that the precident had been set within the family of adults returning/living with family made it the default position for our family.

    Now when we are looking to go, the tables have turned and my parents have come to rely on us more.

    Perhaps its partly because my parents are much older than might be expected of a person my age and because DH's mother died already, but I'm aware my mother, particularly, isn't going to be around forever. My relationship with my parents has never been better, in fact there were times in early adult hood and teens it was very strained. I lived at home until I was 8/9, then from 16-17 then not again for periods of longer than two months till I came home ill, I was highly independant, had a full and busy life nd was of the firm opinion my parents and I got on better from a great distance :)

    I do know a primary reason it continues to work well is because there are benefits to my parents too.. While I look forward to living in a separate building from them and don't have an emotional or financial need to live with/near them, I do very much want to be able to help them, be there for them as they become less able them selves because its what they did for me as an adult too.

    I wouldn't stay here if being naked were a problem.

    My guess is that a different throw of the dice would have seen a diferent attitude to ours. I do know that if I manage to have a child anytime my mother will not be likely to know that child in its teens, let alone as an adult, and any child I had will be poorer for that.
  • Cleaver
    Cleaver Posts: 6,989 Forumite
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    ess0two wrote: »
    As a side note i was never allowed girlfriends etc,staying over at my parents.
    Rather sealed my fate and i moved out at 21,best decision ever

    As another side note I slept with a hell of lot more women in my parent's house that I have since I moved in with my wife.

    There might be a good reason for that though now I come to think about it.
  • ess0two
    ess0two Posts: 3,606 Forumite
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    Cleaver wrote: »
    As another side note I slept with a hell of lot more women in my parent's house that I have since I moved in with my wife.

    There might be a good reason for that though now I come to think about it.


    There lay my problem,no shagging at home,bought my own place and was like dog with 2 dicks.
    17yrs later it was potentially a good call by my parents,as i would'nt be in the position i'm in now.
    Official MR B fan club,dont go............................
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    The only person I ever slept with in my family home was DH. My last long term partner was alwys given a spare room and we respected that. We've always had a large garden and planty of outbuildings/stables though. :) And, as an adult staying at home, you don't have a curfew.
  • skap7309
    skap7309 Posts: 874 Forumite
    edited 1 October 2009 at 5:20PM
    mitchaa wrote: »
    I take it you are another who cant stand on his own 2 feet and are still living with parents then?

    Mitchaa, were you kicked out of your parents against your will at a young age? You really have a huge issue with anyone who still lives with their parents.

    Yes i do still ive with my dad but let me put it to you like this.

    I lived with my ex at 19 so am quite capable of doing it again to answer your 'cant stand on your own two feet' comment. If i was so comfortable with staying here why have i gone to so much effort to save a house deposit? The reason is this - at my dads i have my own dedicated office to run my business from. I can park my car outside the house and have the pleasure of keeping my dad company whilst i am here. Here is the clincher - i can save a deposit at 5 times the rate than if i rented. I am paying (and have done since 16) my way for staying here. Bills, maintenance, food etc. So much for 'freeloading'.

    If i followed your advice and rushed onto the property snake then i would be in a flat with no room to swing a cat in, no place to run my business and would share the area with people i dont like, no place to park, maintenance charges etc the list is endless.

    TBH i cannot see what there is to be embarrassed about after the above is taken into consideration.
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