Blooming fuming

Paparika

ok i live in a maisonette in a block of flats, i'm in the middle, a maisonette above me and below me.

Its council property and its about 40 years old, no sound proofing will be done by the council.

now my upstairs neighbours can be noisy, they have kids, but I've lived with noisy neighbours above me for 14 years, accepted it, as technically it's not all their fault, it's the lack of soundproofing. In fact my upstairs neighbour and i get on quite well, his family are Muslim Somalian, sometimes their religion requires them to have activities in the eve, which can be noisy, i know it wont be for long so ignore then noise and quite nice, they know about the noise and we both agree that we have to put up with it due to the building, and we are happy about that, if either of us is over noisy the other will say, and no nastiness is involved, you could say very civilised.
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And then we have my downstairs neighbour, oh boy what a difference, not really had much dealing with them, i realise they are chav's, not my cup of tea so i keep myself to myself.

Until about a week or so ago, very loud bass music, so loud that my windows and doors are vibrating to the noise, i got stressed, but didn't do anything about it, as it was during the day and didn't go on for more that a few hours at a time.
But today whilst popping downstairs for pup to do his thing, they start their music up, so i thought whilst i am downstairs i'll just knock on their door to ask them nicely if they would mind turning it down a bit, please and thank you.

I get to the door, and think ok they are not going to hear me, but knock anyway, in the meantime one of their neighbours comes out from her house with her dog, mine starts barking, (she's a bit weird, prostitute, drunk, druggie - her aunt lives 2 doors away from me and took great delight in telling me all her history a few days ago, i choose to ignore it tbh) anyway i ask the woman with the dog not to come my way, as mine was barking. so she goes in the opposite direction, i then go back to knocking on the door, still no answer from the noisy neighbour, so with my fist i hammer on the door, a few times, still no answer, so decided to leave it as they weren't going to hear me, and went back to my home.

I get in, and with my walking stick i bang it on my floor a few times, in the hope that they might hear that, as the music is comming from the bedroom which is below my living room, still nothing so i give up, and call noise pollution, as i am ill with fibromyalgia, i don't sleep very well and wasn't feeling good and just wanted some piece and quiet.

a little later there is hammering on my door, i answer to find my downstairs neighbour demanding to know if i was at her door earlier, yes i said, why she asked.

I told her i had knocked on her door to ask if she could turn her music down, she said well i didn't hear you as i had my music on (!!!??!?!?)
so i said, well your music is so loud it makes my home vibrate, it's too much, she said, i've been told you were kicking my door in. What!!! i looked at her, and said look at me (walking stick, slippers on) do you think i am capable of kicking a door in, she said i dunno but you were seen doing so.

I told her that no, i was not kicking her door in, just hammering on the door to get her attention to ask her to turn it down.

she then gets verbally nasty, tells me i better watch out or she will slap me, i then called her a f***kin chav, i know naughty of me but i lost it then, i was being accused of doing something i hadn't done, and she was raving on about how noisy i am all the time and my mongerl dog barking all night, which to be honest he doesnt as i am here all night with him, unless we are playing and he may bark a little, and thats when i tend to stop as he gets over excited (he's a jack russel x)

What makes it worse is someone in here house smokes drugs out their bedroom window in the evening, and it comes into my living room, which makes me feel sick, and i'm fed up with having to close my windows so the smell doesnt come in.

So i ring noise pollution again, they tell me they will get someone to call me in the next 2 days and as she had threatend violence towards me i should ring the police to report threat of voilence, which i have now done and awaiting a call from the local bobby.

but i am shaking and so stressed and upset, that A, some neighbour cold lie about me, and B this chav downstairs could be so agressive, and not give me an opportunity to explain why noise in this block is so bad. :mad:

usernameisvalid

Paparika wrote: »

ok i live in a maisonette in a block of flats, i'm in the middle, a maisonette above me and below me.

Its council property and its about 40 years old, no sound proofing will be done by the council.

now my upstairs neighbours can be noisy, they have kids, but I've lived with noisy neighbours above me for 14 years, accepted it, as technically it's not all their fault, it's the lack of soundproofing. In fact my upstairs neighbour and i get on quite well, his family are Muslim Somalian, sometimes their religion requires them to have activities in the eve, which can be noisy, i know it wont be for long so ignore then noise and quite nice, they know about the noise and we both agree that we have to put up with it due to the building, and we are happy about that, if either of us is over noisy the other will say, and no nastiness is involved, you could say very civilised.
o
And then we have my downstairs neighbour, oh boy what a difference, not really had much dealing with them, i realise they are chav's, not my cup of tea so i keep myself to myself.

Until about a week or so ago, very loud bass music, so loud that my windows and doors are vibrating to the noise, i got stressed, but didn't do anything about it, as it was during the day and didn't go on for more that a few hours at a time.
But today whilst popping downstairs for pup to do his thing, they start their music up, so i thought whilst i am downstairs i'll just knock on their door to ask them nicely if they would mind turning it down a bit, please and thank you.

I get to the door, and think ok they are not going to hear me, but knock anyway, in the meantime one of their neighbours comes out from her house with her dog, mine starts barking, (she's a bit weird, prostitute, drunk, druggie - her aunt lives 2 doors away from me and took great delight in telling me all her history a few days ago, i choose to ignore it tbh) anyway i ask the woman with the dog not to come my way, as mine was barking. so she goes in the opposite direction, i then go back to knocking on the door, still no answer from the noisy neighbour, so with my fist i hammer on the door, a few times, still no answer, so decided to leave it as they weren't going to hear me, and went back to my home.

I get in, and with my walking stick i bang it on my floor a few times, in the hope that they might hear that, as the music is comming from the bedroom which is below my living room, still nothing so i give up, and call noise pollution, as i am ill with fibromyalgia, i don't sleep very well and wasn't feeling good and just wanted some piece and quiet.

a little later there is hammering on my door, i answer to find my downstairs neighbour demanding to know if i was at her door earlier, yes i said, why she asked.

I told her i had knocked on her door to ask if she could turn her music down, she said well i didn't hear you as i had my music on (!!!??!?!?)
so i said, well your music is so loud it makes my home vibrate, it's too much, she said, i've been told you were kicking my door in. What!!! i looked at her, and said look at me (walking stick, slippers on) do you think i am capable of kicking a door in, she said i dunno but you were seen doing so.

I told her that no, i was not kicking her door in, just hammering on the door to get her attention to ask her to turn it down.

she then gets verbally nasty, tells me i better watch out or she will slap me, i then called her a f***kin chav, i know naughty of me but i lost it then, i was being accused of doing something i hadn't done, and she was raving on about how noisy i am all the time and my mongerl dog barking all night, which to be honest he doesnt as i am here all night with him, unless we are playing and he may bark a little, and thats when i tend to stop as he gets over excited (he's a jack russel x)

What makes it worse is someone in here house smokes drugs out their bedroom window in the evening, and it comes into my living room, which makes me feel sick, and i'm fed up with having to close my windows so the smell doesnt come in.

So i ring noise pollution again, they tell me they will get someone to call me in the next 2 days and as she had threatend violence towards me i should ring the police to report threat of voilence, which i have now done and awaiting a call from the local bobby.

but i am shaking and so stressed and upset, that A, some neighbour cold lie about me, and B this chav downstairs could be so agressive, and not give me an opportunity to explain why noise in this block is so bad. :mad:

And yet you remember it enough to post on here?

Your post is full of judgements about people who live around you yet you havent given any clue as to what it is you are hoping to gain from this post

You sound aggrieved that the people downstairs dont have the relationship with you that your upstairs neighbours have. Unfortunately we cant dictate how our neighbours behave towards us, all we can do is look at ourselves.

It was obvious to you (in your own words) that your neighbour wouldnt hear you so perhaps a better way of going forward would have been to carry on with your walk and on your return, if the music had been turned down tried to knock again or if not a note in the door may have been more use?

Its obvious from reading this post that you have worked yourself up and as you now realise getting into a shouting match with your neighbour has now escalated things to threats and the police being called.

Whilst Im sorry to read that you have ill health and are not feeling the best, you do need to see where your own actions have taken part in this and perhaps look at how you could do things differently in future

I hope things are sorted for you

tizhimi

you shouldn't have sworn however screw em, they are the chavvy scum. Can you move? I know this is going to sound awful BUT 'cos of all the palava on the news about antisocial behaviour you might be able to get more done because it is a hot topic.

I think usernameisvalid has been really harsh, there is no need to be so nasty, this person is obviously stressed.

I would be getting on to the council, the police and nip this in the bud. no one should put up with drugs and noise all the time.

Paparika

the bit you put in red, is what my neighbour said about her neice, what truth in that is not my business, but she did look rough.

the police have just come, checked the cctv confirmed i didn't kick the door in, i did tell him what i called her, and we both agreed it wasn't the best thing to say, but he understood why i did.


It's not that i am aggravated that i don't have a relationship with her, tbh i don't. i just don't want to hear her music for hours on end, surely people realise that what maybe fantastic music especially loud to them, may not be nice for others to have to listen to as well. Her music gives me a headache, and when i haven't been able to sleep at night, it makes it worse.

tizhimi

NO one should have to put up with their neighbours making it unbearable to live there, you need this sorted.

Paparika

I am waiting to be moved somewhere more suited to my needs, and i have already said i didn't want to live under anyone anymore.

I was wrong to say what i did to her, I am tired and cranky, but she really did wind me up, accusing me of something i was obviously not capable of doing. yet she stood there with her mate, giving me grief and refusing to turn her music down, that is selfish.

If i had blasting music and someone complained, i'd be mortified and apologise and turn it down.

usernameisvalid, it happened this morning and i wrote it down whilst i still could remember it.. I did think about writing her a polite note asking her to turn her music down, until she had a go at my door, then thought it best not to do that.

usernameisvalid

tizhimi wrote: »

you shouldn't have sworn however screw em, they are the chavvy scum. Can you move? I know this is going to sound awful BUT 'cos of all the palava on the news about antisocial behaviour you might be able to get more done because it is a hot topic.

I think usernameisvalid has been really harsh, there is no need to be so nasty, this person is obviously stressed.

I would be getting on to the council, the police and nip this in the bud. no one should put up with drugs and noise all the time.

Whilst you are certainly entitled to your own opinion, seeing as you havent admitted to being one of paprikas other neighbours, how do you know if this person is a "chav"?

We only have the OP's opinion to go by, an opinion she has partly formed by hearsay ( as I have pointed out in my first reply)

No where in my post was I harsh and no way am I being nasty. Im very sympathetic to Paprikas predicament having lived with noise pollution for a long time. I think all I did was to point out how her preconceived ideas may have caused her to act in a way she may not have if she had been dealing with someone else, Indeed she clearly says with the neighbours she does have a good relationship with, she waits till a good time to mention the noise, rather then going in with all guns blazing

Paparika

usernameisvalid wrote: »

Whilst you are certainly entitled to your own opinion, seeing as you havent admitted to being one of paprikas other neighbours, how do you know if this person is a "chav"?

We only have the OP's opinion to go by, an opinion she has partly formed by hearsay ( as I have pointed out in my first reply)

No where in my post was I harsh and no way am I being nasty. Im very sympathetic to Paprikas predicament having lived with noise pollution for a long time. I think all I did was to point out how her preconceived ideas may have caused her to act in a way she may not have if she had been dealing with someone else, Indeed she clearly says with the neighbours she does have a good relationship with, she waits till a good time to mention the noise, rather then going in with all guns blazing

I did start off being very polite and calm at my door whist she went on one, the policeman who was here said that they have had dealings with the neighbours downstairs before, and not in a nice way. ok you have only my word that i think she is a chav, guilty, but they way she went about it, was ott and not nice, i wont even mention the big looped earrings and the clothes she was wearing, they could be comy clothes for her

Pee

Can you complain to the Council about her smoking drugs? Could you also ring the police whenever they are doing it? It should make them at least more discreet and considerate. If it's a drug you can smell, I assume it's cannabis, probably skunk to be exact. The trouble is, it's likely that she will know it's you and will hassle you - on the one hand good ammo to get her out, on the other, hassle you maybe don't need when you are unwell. Could you apply for a transfer, as maybe somewhere ground level would suit you better?

tizhimi

usernameisvalid wrote: »

Whilst you are certainly entitled to your own opinion, seeing as you havent admitted to being one of paprikas other neighbours, how do you know if this person is a "chav"?

We only have the OP's opinion to go by, an opinion she has partly formed by hearsay ( as I have pointed out in my first reply)

No where in my post was I harsh and no way am I being nasty. Im very sympathetic to Paprikas predicament having lived with noise pollution for a long time. I think all I did was to point out how her preconceived ideas may have caused her to act in a way she may not have if she had been dealing with someone else, Indeed she clearly says with the neighbours she does have a good relationship with, she waits till a good time to mention the noise, rather then going in with all guns blazing

Anyone doing drugs, playing loud music and comes shouting and screaming at someone's door --- IN MY OPINION --- is a chav. Just have some empathy for the OP as you come across as sitting rather high on that horse of yours.

Paparika

Pee wrote: »

Can you complain to the Council about her smoking drugs? Could you also ring the police whenever they are doing it? It should make them at least more discreet and considerate. If it's a drug you can smell, I assume it's cannabis, probably skunk to be exact. The trouble is, it's likely that she will know it's you and will hassle you - on the one hand good ammo to get her out, on the other, hassle you maybe don't need when you are unwell. Could you apply for a transfer, as maybe somewhere ground level would suit you better?

I told the policeman about it, he said he would let the appropriate team know about it, yes i guess i could call the police when i smell it, but like you said i could be causing problems for myself.

I am waiting to be rehoused based on medical grounds. I've been here 14 years, but it's now that i need to leave as it is unsuitable