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Tax free bikes with the Cycle to Work scheme

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  • custardy
    custardy Posts: 38,365 Forumite
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    edited 15 August 2010 at 4:54PM
    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/eimanual/eim21667a.htm

    looks like HMRC have decided they can get some more cash out of this ;)

    looking at the table it would render it pointless when paying back over the short term
    Age of cycle
    Acceptable disposal value percentage


    Original price of the cycle less than £500
    Original price £500+

    1 year
    18%
    25%

    18 months
    16%
    21%

    2 years
    13%
    17%

    3 years
    8%
    12%

    4 years
    3%
    7%

    5 years
    Negligible
    2%

    6 years & over
    Negligible
    Negligible
  • bigjl
    bigjl Posts: 6,457 Forumite
    We have a similiar scheme at work, you have set maximums, for a bike and bike gear you pay no interest and have to pay it back in 9 or 10 months.
  • With the changes to the scheme it certainly doesn't make it the no brainer it used to be to see 40% - 50% savings for top tax rate payers. However it still can give an easy 14%-25% saving on a £1000 bike and an interest free loan over 12 months deducted at source with a final settlement figure which still makes it a cheaper way to get a new bike.

    If you get a bike for £500 just under the threshold then the saving is larger between 23% and 32%

    The higher percentage saving is if your company can reclaim VAT on the purchase.

    Looks like some of the scheme providers are looking at ways to change the scheme to maintain higher savings.
  • gauly
    gauly Posts: 284 Forumite
    Really irritating that they can introduce this change retrospectively. My husband bought a bike six months ago and was meant to pay 3% of the purchase price at the end. He doesn't get VAT back or the employers NI payments and he is a lower rate tax-payer so it wasn't an enormous saving.

    Now he ends up paying back 69% of the price over the year and then 25% at the end making a total of 94% of the purchase price. He wouldn't have done this scheme if he had known they were going to change it - his employer's website say unequivocally that you pay 3% at the end!

    Also, I read on one page that you have to pay VAT on the purchase price at the end? I find that very hard to believe but it would mean that the total saving would be only 1%.
  • Yorkie1
    Yorkie1 Posts: 12,256 Forumite
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    I tend to agree with your sentiments, gauly, as I'm in a similar position. The only consoling way I'm finding to look at it, is that it's been an interest-free loan to buy the bike etc. But budgeting for 20% is a large chunk in one go.
  • gadgetmind
    gadgetmind Posts: 11,130 Forumite
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    HMG *really* seem to want Cycle To Work dead, dead, dead!

    They are now saying that anyone who got a voucher should have been charged VAT on it.

    http://!!!!!!!.com/34kkqkt

    I guess they all want us back in cars and paying lots of VED and fuel duty.

    Ian
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

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  • gadgetmind
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    Dunno what !!!!! is all about - it should say t i n y u r l without the spaces.
    Ian
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

    Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.
  • custardy
    custardy Posts: 38,365 Forumite
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    gadgetmind wrote: »
    Dunno what !!!!! is all about - it should say !!!!!!!.
    Ian

    well thats cleared that up then
  • gauly
    gauly Posts: 284 Forumite
    gadgetmind wrote: »
    HMG *really* seem to want Cycle To Work dead, dead, dead!

    They are now saying that anyone who got a voucher should have been charged VAT on it.

    Ian

    I read that as you have to pay VAT on the voucher if your employer has claimed back VAT on the bike? Sounds like my husband is OK on that one since his employer didn't claim VAT back on the bike purchase.

    I was thinking this scheme now only made sense if your company claimed back VAT or you were a higher rate tax payer. Seems like it's only higher rate tax payers left with any benefit which is a bit weird.
  • sct73
    sct73 Posts: 33 Forumite
    Can anyone help with information on payments? My old company ran this scheme and my monthly payments from my salary were £31 however my Tax & NI dropped by exactly that amount, so my take home salary didnt change.
    I want to get a new bike with my new employer but am unsure if the payments were correct last time. The amount was correct but I thought I would be charged the £31 and as a result be £31 lighter in my pay each month. Was I just lucky or is this the way it works?????????
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