Landlord fitting new boiler

PayDay

I thought it was illegal for a rented property to have a boiler in a bedroom, even if the boiler is in a cupboard in a bedroom?

clutton_2

i have a boiler in a bedroom in one of my properties, and my gas engineer is THE most anally fastidious Gas Engineer on this planet and he has never raised issues with it - clearly the 14kw is the crucial figure - as is the risk assessment.

no one on this forum can say yay or nay as to whether this boiler is right or wrong

PayDay

clutton wrote: »

no one on this forum can say yay or nay as to whether this boiler is right or wrong

The opening poster's local council, Environmental Health Department, would be able to say if it's legal/safe in a rented property, or not.

sassygirl_2

We had a new gas combi boiled put in our rented property 2 months ago. Our old one was in a cupboard on the landing. Our new one has been re-located into the loft on an external wall. It took 1 day of no water 9am-5pm and one extra day to tidy bits up.
The difference in keeping the house warm is amazing. our old one we had on 30 degrees and i was still cold. now i only have it on in the morning for 15 mins to take chill off.

also you mention cavity wall insulation, have you tried to see if your eligible for a warm front grant? We have just had our windows and doors draugh proofed by them.

eco-friendly_2

Can a room containing a gas appliance still be used as a bedroom?





Since 31 October 1998, any room converted to use as sleeping accommodation should not contain the following types of gas appliances:

1. A gas fire, gas space heater or a gas water heater (including a gas boiler) over 14 kilowatts gross input unless it is room sealed.

A combi is ROOM SEALED!



You might be given a new Cert, albeit A Landlords Gas Safety Cert is not required until the appliance becomes 12 months old.

jenny74

when we had our boiler replaced, including flushing out the whole system... It took just under 2 days. British Gas did it. Shouldn't take any longer than 3 days IMHO.

Jenny

clutton_2

""You might be given a new Cert, albeit A Landlords Gas Safety Cert is not required until the appliance becomes 12 months old.""

i had a very interesting conversation with my gasSafe engineer last week about this very poinr - and his initial response as to whether a GasSafe (or indeed a CORGI: cert) was necessary for a brand n ew boiler was a "thoughtful look with some head-scratching"

his reply was that all the initial Benchmark tests and checks on new boilers were more stringent than was necessary for a standard Landords Gas Safety Check - but that he was not sure if legally a LL had to have the LGSC to comply, or whether the Benchmark book would suffice....

A benchmark book would certainly prove to a court that an appliance had been legally and safely fitted

he always issues a LGSC anyway, but, its a moot point .....

silvercar

I would have thought you would have had sight of an installation certificate and the plumber's GasSafe registration card. Though both would really be for the landlord to see, as the landlord is the customer.

The landlord's safety certificate would be due 12 months after the previous one was issued, though a plumber may include the issue of a new one in his price. (If he does make sure any other appliances are included in it (eg gas hob or oven) or another will be due 12 months after the last one.

I would think a tenant would have to suffer the inconveniance of the new boiler fitting, the resulting benefit should be worth any agro. If the current set up wouldn't pass another annual inspection, the tenant really doesn't have much choice. Far better for tenant and landlord to have the work done in a planned and measured way, than be faced with a failed boiler, a need to provide heating urgently and a wait while quotes and suitable plumbers are found.

claireac

Firstly, thank you everyone for your replies.

We had the meeting with la and plumber this morning, and it's quite major work!!

The boiler is being replaced with a combi boiler. It's going in the same place, in the bedroom cupboard. All the pipework is being replaced :eek:, and we have to ensure that all the furniture is out of the way for this :eek:. We're also going to be without hot water & heating for 3 days. Not worried about the heating, but am about the hot water :eek::eek:. Most of the flooring in our room will be taken up, and they said that the floor boards will be put down at night for us to sleep in there.......

I have to say I'm absolutely dreading it, and just hope the new boiler reduces our astronomical gas bills!

clutton_2

i think this new boiler will so reduce your heating bills that you will be very surprised.

maybe the LA could pay for you guys to go to the local swimming pool for showers for a couple of days ? - or alternatively - you could ask for a reduction in rent for that week, or ask if he has access to a large Tea-Urn - at least you could then boil a reasonable quantity of hot water at one go for a good wash.

They certainly seem to be taking your convenience into account as best they are able when planning the works.

bw