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Spain now in a depression?
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All invented in other countries, and mass produced in other countries.
Want to list stuff the spanish themselves have created? You can hardly count antique stamps as "creative"!
The only thing I will give them is their tile industry. Whuch is currently getting its a$$ handed back to it on a plate by china, who are producing the same quality at a fraction of the price.
Their wine sucks. Much prefer a decent burgundy or chilean red, athough I admit, this is fairly subjective.
The question was what they produce, not what they invented.
They are simple statistics available with a quick google search.0 -
Seems to me that the trick is to invent the product, patent it where possible and make it yourself at home..so quick to market.The question was what they produce, not what they invented.
They are simple statistics available with a quick google search.
Can't link as I can't remember where I read it but China is desperate to develop it's design business rather than just make to everyone elses spec.0 -
inspector_monkfish wrote: »Waiters....
In the Spanish translation of Fawlty Towers he is an Italian called Luigi from Milano.(AKA HRH_MUngo)
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Interesting thread from someone who had hoped to move there in a couple of years ( Mrs. P has changed her mind ), oh well. I thought I had it sussed. A small apartment in Spain and drawing our income from pensions and savings from here.Making sure at least one of us spoke the language, Mrs.P did a course, she is OK on that sort of thing.
Going back just 2 years ago, we would have lived like Kings but factoring in the quite sharp price increases, plus the huge drop in currency it would be a different picture.
I was there last year and it was very clear how some stuff had gone up. The year before we stayed with friends in rural Spain. The amount of Brits showing up to live there was surprising. It was clear that some had no real idea about how to support themselves.
We are told, by friends there, that property drops are as high as 30 to 50% and a number of Brits would like to return to the UK but can`t.
All very true Pobby.
The shops in rural Andalucia don't understand how to handle recession and as people have spent less money then they have put their prices up. Mercadona is now much more expensive than Morrisons. Also they never do any BOGOFs or special offers, not even on near-date food, it will stay on the shelves until it rots, then it is thrown away. Consumer goods are even more expensive than they were before (I saw an ironing board for 100 euros:eek:).
Council Tax (at least in rural areas) is much cheaper than the UK, so is car tax and there is no TV licence, but all that is balanced off by the dearer groceries and also the cost of telephony/internet is very high and very unreliable.
Contrary to what some people think, you DO need heating in the winter in southern Spain, and whether you have wood, oil or bottled gas, this too is on a par or more expensive than the UK.(AKA HRH_MUngo)
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I dont. They bought a home. Who cares if it lost its value? Or did they just hope to price out the local population from housing like they did in the UK? You need to do your research.
Screw em.
In rural Andalucia the locals are normally very glad if you buy their properties, they have usually inherited them and don't actually want them, the young people want to go to Malaga or Madrid, they don't want to live in the a£$e end of nowhere attempting to farm marginal land (and who can blame them).
So no, these expats are not pricing out the locals, they are helping to keep a village alive and the locals are usually very happy about that and very welcoming.(AKA HRH_MUngo)
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seven-day-weekend wrote: »All very true Pobby.
The shops in rural Andalucia don't understand how to handle recession and as people have spent less money then they have put their prices up. Mercadona is now much more expensive than Morrisons. Also they never do any BOGOFs or special offers, not even on near-date food, it will stay on the shelves until it rots, then it is thrown away. Consumer goods are even more expensive than they were before (I saw an ironing board for 100 euros:eek:).
Council Tax (at least in rural areas) is much cheaper than the UK, so is car tax and there is no TV licence, but all that is balanced off by the dearer groceries and also the cost of telephony/internet is very high and very unreliable.
Contrary to what some people think, you DO need heating in the winter in southern Spain, and whether you have wood, oil or bottled gas, this too is on a par or more expensive than the UK.
What a far cry from about 5 years ago. I went into Mercadona and bought a trolley full of food, countless cases of wine, a bottle of vodka and a number of wine boxes all for around 70 euro.0 -
What a far cry from about 5 years ago. I went into Mercadona and bought a trolley full of food, countless cases of wine, a bottle of vodka and a number of wine boxes all for around 70 euro.
Wine and spirits are still cheap!!
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seven-day-weekend wrote: »Wine and spirits are still cheap!!
What a relief!So a few old turnips can still be washed down with very cheap Spanish beer.0 -
Can't link as I can't remember where I read it but China is desperate to develop it's design business rather than just make to everyone elses spec.
That's interesting - how does one go about designing for the Chinese - sounds like a lovely challenge?YouGov: £50 and £50 and £5 Amazon voucher received;
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beaujolais-nouveau wrote: »That's interesting - how does one go about designing for the Chinese - sounds like a lovely challenge?
?? The wish to design, make and sell the products to us, cutting all the layers out rather than making to someone elses spec. More ££££ for them.0
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