Jobcentre Rant (long)

tizhimi

What a great thread, it really shows the difference between those in the system and those out of the system. When you are in the system everyone is a c*ck, a young arragant girl or snobby or whatever.

When you come out the other side of the system or if you have never been in the system its a case of a looking down the rabbit hole.

When you are in the rabbit hole everything is dark and negitive, this is not the fault of the staff, the jsa claimant or anyone else, its the rabbit hole that does this - the system that has evolved rather than one that has developed.

Its a case of what we "take to the text" as opposed to what we actually see. If an employed person came across this lass in the office perhaps they might have seen it in a different light.

What I'm trying to put across (badly) is it doesn't matter what our situation is, we can never understand as we are conditioned too much by our own situation to understand the view of others, unless we have previously had that conditioning. (Wow my degree has actually been useful for the first time ever!)

seven-day-weekend

tizhimi wrote: »

(Wow my degree has actually been useful for the first time ever!)

Don't think mine ever was!!:rotfl:

tizhimi

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

Don't think mine ever was!!:rotfl:

I studied Archaeological Science and its all about perception and how we can never understand the past because we live in the present. I suppose we can apply these rules to understand other peoples' perspective in day to day life.

I am so pleased I have 12k of debt for that knowledge :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

dave4545454

i certainly know my first class honours degree in production engineering and management wasn't ever useful but i did have a fantastic time at uni and this was before tuition fees were introduced

tizhimi

I think they aught to ditch pointless uni courses and focus on giving practical skills - as someone how went on a highly sort after course I wish I hadn't bothered.
The OP's Hubby is actually in a great situation, he's got real life skills and I'm sure loads of those skills are transferable into many different roles. Its just giving the confidence back to the man where he can see himself from a detatched manner and really assess his own skills and see himself how the world sees him.

seven-day-weekend

My degree is in Geography (mainly human) and I suppose it was quite useful when I worked in Town Planning; the head of my section had the same degree as me.

But when I went back to work full-time at the age of 46, (not in Planning) it was my voluntary work as a church treasurer that actually got me the job, not my degree.

And I suppose this is what this thread is partly about - transferable skills, which the OP's husband has with his managerial experience. It doesn't have to be 'chef' related, does it, it's about managing people and meeting deadlines.

Therefore he can broaden his horizons and maybe that's what the advisor in the jobcentre was trying to get him to do.

tizhimi

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

And I suppose this is what this thread is partly about - transferable skills, which the OP's husband has with his managerial experience. It doesn't have to be 'chef' related, does it, it's about managing people and meeting deadlines.

Therefore he can broaden his horizons and maybe that's what the advisor in the jobcentre was trying to get him to do.

I couldn't agree more,:beer: the OP's hubby just has to take the process on the chin (however awful it is jumping through the JSA hoops) and I hope that he sees his skills are more broad than he may have first thought:T

vaporate

xXMessedUpXx wrote: »

If the issue is the way she spoke to him then she needs to remember manners cost nothing and talking down to, and demeaning people isn't going to help them get work (and get off JSA and get the advisor their bonuses...). We all have bad days but you can't take it out the customer/client, its unprofessional (and i'm saying that even though there were times i have wanted to-gamblers could be a nightmare at times)

And back to not wanting menial jobs after graduating, i had to get any job i could to survive, i ended up working in a call centre, it was !!!! but it paid the bills. (and also drove me to a nervous breakdown but thats another story!).

Wow, sorry to hear that you suffered during that job. I can understand how Call centre work can be extremely stressful. No sarcasm here.

I'm not actually lookign at graduate jobs AT ALL. In fact I'm looking at customer booking clerk ect and best case scenario, cruise jobs, low entry though.

All the best for the future. :j

tizhimi

....off subject - vaporate - I can say from experience DO NOT TAKE A CRUISE SHIP JOB. I had a well paid role and hated it! I worked in the theatre deptment and got into trouble for "being too professional" if you can beleive it and got told "this isn't the west end!". No it certainly wasn't the west end. I have scars from bed bugs, do not recommend it unless you want a dead end career (unless you are a deck officer or marine engineer). Its full of cheaper paid employees so unless you have skills such as reading the book, sound engineer, lighting engineer, stage manager, a twirly or a turn you're not going to get a job as your job (unless its specifically skilled)can be done by cheaper labour. One of the waiters was on less than a dollar a day and had to share a cabin with five others.

vaporate

tizhimi wrote: »

....off subject - vaporate - I can say from experience DO NOT TAKE A CRUISE SHIP JOB. I had a well paid role and hated it! I worked in the theatre deptment and got into trouble for "being too professional" if you can beleive it and got told "this isn't the west end!". No it certainly wasn't the west end. I have scars from bed bugs, do not recommend it unless you want a dead end career (unless you are a deck officer or marine engineer). Its full of cheaper paid employees so unless you have skills such as reading the book, sound engineer, lighting engineer, stage manager, a twirly or a turn you're not going to get a job as your job (unless its specifically skilled)can be done by cheaper labour. One of the waiters was on less than a dollar a day and had to share a cabin with five others.

Jesus Christ, sounds like a nightmare.

TBH, I looked last night and only found deck officers, albeit experience needed, and photographers.

will have to keep looking elsewhere...