Why do companies use recruitment agencies?

CCFC_80

liney wrote: »

I'd ban footballers from earning megabucks for kicking a ball around, but it's a business and that's how that business works.

Yes but people can vote with their feet by not going th the football matches, then they will not earn their megabucks.It is idiots paying extortionate £60-£80 seat prices contributing to their high wages

£12 against £5.73 is wildly inaccurate, but even if it wasn't, it's simply supply and demand. Who are you to say what private companies should and shouldn't spend their money on? Perhaps i'd agree private sector should do their own recruitment as they employ more than enough civil servants to do their own recruitment, but i don't think you would see the NHS stand without Bank Nurses etc.

Okay but it is not far off, I know that most agencies will be invoicing their client at least £10.00 per hour whilst the worker is getting minimum wage rate as well as also invoicing the client for holiday pay when the agency worker might not yet qualify for it if they have not been there long enough.

dave4545454

andy46 wrote: »

Okay but it is not far off, I know that most agencies will be invoicing their client at least £10.00 per hour whilst the worker is getting minimum wage rate as well as also invoicing the client for holiday pay when the agency worker might not yet qualify for it if they have not been there long enough.

listen to andy, he knows his stuff:T

fawd1

well, I can see it from both sides, I have worked in an agency and for an agency (if you see what I mean) and yes, I objected to knowing that the agency was being paid for every hour I worked ( and a pretty hefty amount as well, usually at least a quarter if not a third of what the companies were paying out to them- for example with local authorities, we used to charge say £20 per hour for a certain member of staff and then pay that member of staff maybe £13 per hour). But, they also do a lot (and I mean a lot) of work for permanent staff placements. They advertise, headhunt, interview by phone and then in person and after they have looked through hundreds of CV's, made at least fifty odd phone calls and maybe interviewed face to face twenty candidates do they short list people to send to the company in question. And, don't forget that if a company hires someone and then is dissatisfied, they get their money back (although this is on a rolling scale 90% first month, 60% second month etc etc.)

In all honesty, I would say that for every placement they make, they usually have to put in about 40-50 hours of work, so it's not always an easy job, and it can be very very worthwhile for the companies doing the hiring. They basically get a shortlist of candidates that are right for the job and get to pick and choose their favourites. (Mind you, I worked for a good recruitment agency!!)

liney

dave4545454 wrote: »

listen to andy, he knows his stuff:T

If Andy knew his stuff he'd know that Agency workers qualify for holiday pay from day one, by law. It is included in the hourly rate, which still needs to be reduced from the mythical £10 per hour.:rolleyes:

You will find this is covered by the Working Time Directive, and currently stands at a minimum of 5.6 weeks per year to be accrued starting from the first day worked.

liney

dave4545454 wrote: »

that would be a lot better solution, a free national online database and cut out the middlemen agency scum who sit on their asses all day making money out of people doing real work

Free. No such thing. Who would you suggest funds it?

I was suggesting that if you were stupid enough to pay £12 ph plus VAT to an agency knowing that they were paying £5.73ph to a temp that you might be abit dim, and therefore the perfect person to play cards with for money..... and i don't feel the slightest bit of guilt saying that considering you are happy to start name calling.

CCFC_80

liney wrote: »

If Andy know his stuff he'd know that Agency workers qualify for holiday pay from day one, by law. It is included in the hourly rate, which still needs to be reduced from the mythical £10 per hour.:rolleyes:

Liney, you are incorrect. It is true that some agencies pay you holiday pay from day 1 (fair play to those that do) Others, one particularly a leading high street recruitment agency name (starts with p and ends in s)
You have to work at least 10-11 full days with them, depending on your hours to qualify for 1 days holiday pay.If they put you in a role where you only work 9 days then you will get no holiday pay from them.

CCFC_80

liney wrote: »

Free. No such thing. Who would you suggest funds it?

liney wrote: »

Well, obviously the government they can continue to allow bonuses(tax payers money) to top failed banking executives who had their banks bailed out by taxpayers money last year and can pay child benefit to eastern european workers whose kids are living overseas. So why can they not put some money into something useful like helping the unemployed find jobs. I do not think that it would take that much money to set up considering money spent in other needless areas.

liney

andy46 wrote: »

Liney, you are incorrect. It is true that some agencies pay you holiday pay from day 1 (fair play to those that do) Others, one particularly a leading high street recruitment agency name (starts with p and ends in s)
You have to work at least 10-11 full days with them, depending on your hours to qualify for 1 days holiday pay.If they put you in a role where you only work 9 days then you will get no holiday pay from them.

Then query it, because:

Agency and casual workers are entitled to holidays under the Working Time Regulations 1998 in the same way as other workers. ACAS

However you may be misunderstanding and thinking that because you haven't accrued a whole day until day 11 days worked, this means you can't take it. This is not true; they either have to round it up to the nearest 1/2 day or allow you to take(or pay you on leaving) the exact monetry value of the percentage of the day you earnt.

liney

andy46 wrote: »

liney wrote: »

Well, obviously the government they can continue to allow bonuses(tax payers money) to top failed banking executives who had their banks bailed out by taxpayers money last year and can pay child benefit to eastern european workers whose kids are living overseas. So why can they not put some money into something useful like helping the unemployed find jobs. I do not think that it would take that much money to set up considering money spent in other needless areas.

So you want the tax payer to pay for it. Good luck Considering the success of the JobCentrePlus, I don't think you will find people "buying in".

It is free to advertise in the JC, so employers obviously don't find it that effective else more would use the service.

DKLS

I have advertised in the Job centre once, never ever again.
The calibre of candidates was dire. It was a complete waste of time and effort.