Resigning- a few questions.

Welshwoofs

Rockporkchop wrote: »

Unfortunately I couldn't agree more. The camaraderie in my place disappeared a long time ago, along with the luncheon vouchers and the Christmas party. I can't remember when I last had a proper lunch break. Working for a living really sucks nowadays, much more than it used to.

Same here. I do get paid well, however there is certainly no camaraderie (in fact a lot of people would appear to be willing to crawl over the dead bodies of their work-mates if it meant a promotion). I work straight through lunch more times a week than not and though I'm contracted to work to 5.30pm it's generally 6.30-7 before I actually finish. Christmas parties (and present/bonus) went out of the window a couple of years ago in 'cost saving initiatives'

I work in an industry which attracts a lot of graduates and unfortunately a good percentage of them do appear to feel that they are entitled to a mangerial job and a decent salary straight off by virtue of their degree, even if they have no experience in the industry or of work in general. The unfortunate reality is that degrees are becoming ten a penny - I've interviewed some graduates in recent years who, although they had a good degree, really didn't have a good bredth of knowledge because degrees have become rather narrow and specialised. In some cases, applicants of the same age who left school at 16 or 18 eat the grads for breakfast both in terms of experience and all-round knowledge.

I'd just be a bit careful Op, so many people have degrees now that it's certainly not a case that employers are tripping over themselves to offer you a great job and you'll need to build up some experience. If this job isn't for you, I'd find another before quitting.

woody01

So, as an intelligent graduate with a good degree from a top uni and some good experience

The amount of graduates i have interviewed with this opinion of themselves is astonishing.
I am not disputing the place might be rubbish to work in, but your opinion of yourself, clearly isn't the opinion of employers else you wouldnt be doing so badly.

I didn't think post-uni life would be a bed of roses but I didn't expect it to be this awful.

Real working world isn't pleaseant then?

McGuiver

woody01 wrote: »

The amount of graduates i have interviewed with this opinion of themselves is astonishing.
I am not disputing the place might be rubbish to work in, but your opinion of yourself, clearly isn't the opinion of employers else you wouldnt be doing so badly.


Real working world isn't pleaseant then?

I don't know about graduates being jumped up, but, perhaps because of the way you write, you seemed bloody well jumped up. The OP doesn't strike me as being jumped up; she' very capable and wants to do well for herself (she's paid for it!). And then aside from you, we get crusty old, hardened members of society posting on this thread saying 'well (ho ho) welcome to the world of work!'
Woody, my young lad, sweeping generalisations like all graduates being stuck up does you no favours. Personally, I'd hate to be interviewed by someone like you with a host of ignorant pre-conceptions. I can imagine you, sat in an interview room, all self-righteous and bias, armed with a copy of the Daily Mail folded up under your arm, beady piercing blue eyes behind horn-rimmed spectacles.
There is indeed a recession and I think we'll see many more unemployed people before things turn around (Christ, what with the Tories on the way). It just riles me that someone like you can call graduates stuck up with overblown opinions of themselves. You'd have to be God to say something like that, but you're probably just a Mondeo-driving middle manager on the way to becoming assistant-superior middle manager. Perhaps if you conduct a cross-sectional survey study from a random sample of graduates selected country-wide, using a fully validated data-collection instrument to gather graduate's self-perceptions of their own importance and the careers they deserve, I may listen to you. But until then Woody, be nice, say nice things, try not to judge - because you say really ignorant things otherwise.

milliemonster

I do think some of your gripes Emily are actually part and parcel of normal working life now, however I can understand the shock of this when it is your first job after graduating.

However, I think if you are clearly not enjoying the job then of course leave and look for something else, we all make some bad employment decisions in life at times!

But before you do leave, I would speak first to your employer about the issues you have, the reason for this is because when you apply for another job in the future you will be asked your reasons for leaving this one after such a short period of time and may also be asked for a reference from this employer. If you can show that you had some issues that when you discussed with your employer weren't going to be addressed then this would look more favourably on you than you simply decided to leave and didn't give your employer a chance to rectify the issues.

Most employers accept that sometimes a job doesn't work out but they will highlight the fact you have only been in this job for a short period and maybe didn't either give the job a chance or aim to seek to resolve the issues with your employer before throwing in the towel

woody01

McGuiver wrote: »

I don't know about graduates being jumped up, but, perhaps because of the way you write, you seemed bloody well jumped up. The OP doesn't strike me as being jumped up; she' very capable and wants to do well for herself (she's paid for it!). And then aside from you, we get crusty old, hardened members of society posting on this thread saying 'well (ho ho) welcome to the world of work!'
Woody, my young lad, sweeping generalisations like all graduates being stuck up does you no favours. Personally, I'd hate to be interviewed by someone like you with a host of ignorant pre-conceptions. I can imagine you, sat in an interview room, all self-righteous and bias, armed with a copy of the Daily Mail folded up under your arm, beady piercing blue eyes behind horn-rimmed spectacles.
There is indeed a recession and I think we'll see many more unemployed people before things turn around (Christ, what with the Tories on the way). It just riles me that someone like you can call graduates stuck up with overblown opinions of themselves. You'd have to be God to say something like that, but you're probably just a Mondeo-driving middle manager on the way to becoming assistant-superior middle manager. Perhaps if you conduct a cross-sectional survey study from a random sample of graduates selected country-wide, using a fully validated data-collection instrument to gather graduate's self-perceptions of their own importance and the careers they deserve, I may listen to you. But until then Woody, be nice, say nice things, try not to judge - because you say really ignorant things otherwise.

And absolutley NONE of the things you accused me of , did i even write.
'Jumped Up'
'Stuck Up'
Just naming 2.

For god's sake at least get a few straight befoire preaching to me.

Also, if you think you know what i do, or what i drive, what i look like, how i act, then you are far more stupid than your post suggests.

dmg24

woody01 wrote: »

And absolutley NONE of the things you accused me of , did i even write.
'Jumped Up'
'Stuck Up'
Just naming 2.

For god's sake at least get a few straight befoire preaching to me.

Also, if you think you know what i do, or what i drive, what i look like, how i act, then you are far more stupid than your post suggests.

You make a very good point there. McGuiver must have thought those words when reading the OP's description of themselves, and therefore would surely be in agreement with you?

LeeSouthEast

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

You may or not be able to do better but there's a recession on and you would be well advised not to leave unti lyou have secured another job.[...] To be honest, your complaints about this job seem pretty minimal and nothing more than a welcome to the real world; very few people have their lunch breaks free of interruption and staying after hours is also pretty normal, particularly for a young graduate hoping to build a career.

I have nothing more to add that Oldernotwiser hasn't already said. You have an income. It's more than some have.

I'm in a fairly senior position where I am, and uninterrupted lunch breaks happen perhaps once a week if I am lucky. I also often stay longer than contracted.

The grass is very rarely greener I am afraid.

louise3965

the grass is only greener because more cows sh&t there

However you sound like you hate your job, and I can understand that you are disappointed at the moment. If you have the luxury if using your inheritance to cushion further studies then do it, but dont be masasively surprised if your next job has its downsides too.

But then again, I love my job earn good money but work blooming hard for it. So not all jobs are dull and not all bosses are ogres. Good luck with life.

Sarahjk21

if you have made up your mind to leave can I suggest that you do it as professionally as you can. Future employers will be interested in why you left and quite possibly seek references. The way you leave a job is important for future roles

TallGirl

Sounds like you have been having a hard time and no you do not have to put up with it it is your choice if you want to leave. I still think it would be worth speaking to the family about your prospects and the promised training. Recruitment costs are very high so it would be in their interest to keep people on. I graduated in 1994 and went straight into a crappy admin job but in an voluntary organisation I really loved and wanted a career with.

It took a year to move up but I have had 9 years in the public sector before moving into the private one. It is a huge change people do expect you to work in the private sector and yes you have to put the company first sometimes. Saying that the large family company I work for is very kind to its staff and we still get a bonus and a fab Christmas party.

Good luck in your future job hunting - by the way don't discount voluntary work as a way into a good career.