Son not entitled to Jobseekers- has no income - Help

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Rob_Wills wrote: »

The purpose of local authority Social Services is the same as any other "civil service" department - When dealing with any statutory authority you need a lawyer as the official response is always non cooperative, often criminal, as they lie in their attempts to minimise the expenditure irrespective of your entitlement.

What a load of !!!!.

terryw

lynzpower wrote: »

Great advice from Smudgeboy.

Also OP, I dont know if this can still happen I certainly hope it doesnt - as this was one of the worst aspects I ever saw- and its only sometihng smudgeboy alluded to that reminded me.

Many moons ago I worked in C&F social work and a number of my clients were housed in hostels. If they did not show for breakfast in the hostel ( breakfast was provided, some plastic bowls, cheap value cereal and UHT milk) and were signed by staff as attended then

THEY WERE MARKED AS NOT STAYING THERE OVERNIGHT & THE HOSTEL ADVISED HB ( as it was then) THAT THE SERVICE USER DID NOT STAY THERE.

I had a few clients of mine that were threatened to be removed from the hostel, in fact IIRC 3 seperate families were "kicked out" from one hostel as they were reported not to have stayed there as they hadnt had breakfast there.

OF COURSE this was totally ludicous, and imagine what it must be like for a vulnerable new mum ( with a range of socail needs) to be turfed out of the hostel for not showing for breakfast. I managed to avert one family being thrown out on the road, as they were actually with us, for a child protection conference.

I do hope that this does not happen any more. I expect with LHA fewer families have to live in hostels, but im not an expert as LHA came in after Id left the job.

Does he have his own fridge in the hostel, if not and hes sharing, Ill be honest I wouldnt
buy anything fridge wise or that cant be stored in the room as it will be stolen.

Aw, c'mon mate. All they got at breakfast was cheap cereal and LHT milk. No teas or gruel then! And plastic bowls...an affront to human decency. Not even the chance of the smell of Mr Bumble's hard-boiled egg. Name and shame the hostel where this happens. The guilty local authority must be named. I fear that to make your case you are going a touch over the top.

Also "kicking someone out" is contrary to human rights. Contact Cherie Blair asap.

Seriously, and I am really not joking, the lads from my local hostel (run by a charity staffed by really caring people) grumble after their seventh pint of the day in JDW's that they are given "Netto" bread. The same stuff that I buy myself. and I love it.

Let's get back on topic and help the OP out.

The basic problem is that the lad is not receiving benefit. See posts above for possible reasons and rectifications.

Fran

If he is with you, you can phone the Jobcentre and find out what is happening as he can go on the phone and give permission for you to speak to them.

Going on from what others have said, you need to find out what the reason is he has not received any JSA and what is stopping a new claim if that was necessary and exactly what he has to do next.

The Crisis Loan comes from the Social Fund and anyone can put in a claim so whether he is on JSA or not shouldn't come into it. This implies that they know he has an underlying entitlement to JSA or an ongoing claim or as someone suggested maybe he hasn't been signing on. You can ask to speak to someone from the Social Fund while on the phone re the JSA if it's not sorted out.

You have mentioned he has MH problems, has he been to a doctor? It might be that it is serious enough for him to be able to claim Income Support because of illness.

shellsmithcat

Hello
All sorted thank you everyone - the job centre decided without telling him that - he was not entitled to JSA due to his MH - (would have been good if someone had told him 2 months ago) - he is going to be getting ESA with consideration of Income support and DLA. Dr has been seen and Crisis loan being reapplied for.
Thank you