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Cat7Kath

Mozart321 wrote: »

If you only spend 30 minutes looking at the evidence of anything, it would convince you. Give me the single best piece of evidence that you have saying they are real. I'm certainly interested.

Well of course UFOs are real, they're all over the place in many different forms, some man-made but many which look like nothing we know on this Earth. Evidence IS available but the governments will not release it. If you're really interested you'd need to read some of the latest UFO books such as Witness to Roswell or UFO's, The Great Debate.

Cat7Kath

There's a good introductory write up on the UFO books website I found I'll copy and paste it here if that's OK.

There is something big happening on our little planet. Those who have taken a little time to look into it will find the evidence overwhelming. Here we provide links to some of the most up-to-date and well researched UFO books and other reading matter for the informed, the convinced and the open-minded individual with an interest in the UFO phenomenon and UFO sightings.

We have been aware of the UFO phenomenon mostly since the late forties although there is evidence of UFO sightings going much further back into man's history found in ancient writings and illustrations.

The open-minded amongst us recognise that mankind is a young, emerging civilisation developing precariously on a very small planet on the edge of an enormous galaxy containing billions of stars and planets. Our galaxy in turn is one of millions of galaxies separated by distances beyond the comprehension of the average human being.

It must be clear to any intelligent person that the probability of life developing on other suitable planets is very high.

We regard ourselves as intelligent and advanced beings. But in reality our scientific discoveries and developments have only really progressed significantly during the last 200 years or so. What can we know of the capabilities of beings on other planets who may have had the opportunity of thousands or even millions of years of scientific development? Are some of them now here observing us from their silent black triangles, bright orbs, steely cylinders and discs that accelerate from a standstill to thousands of miles per hour in an instant?

Some of these sightings are attributed by a few to advanced government black projects such as the mythical TR-3B using anti-gravity propulsion reverse-engineered from alien technology. This in itself would be revealing and mind-boggling.

Some sceptics discount UFO sightings saying that we cannot have been visited simply because of the huge distances involved and even at the theoretical light speed limit travelling times are immense and impractical. Many scientists however question Einstein's theory, and the fact that we are clearly the subject of thousands of visitations suggests that there may be alternatives to slogging through space from point-to-point.

There is much talk of governments holding back information about UFO sightings from the general public for various reasons and organisations exist demanding their disclosure.

There are risks that governments disclosing their UFO knowledge, clarification of Roswell and Area 51 and maybe the display of an alien body could precipitate the collapse of religions around the world. However, religious beliefs are strong and capable of adaptation.

On the other hand would disclosure make us look to the skies in awe united as one on our little planet instead of glaring at each other suspiciously and threateningly across borders and oceans?

Pip26

Hi Rian and dszen -

This needs some investigation (no pun intended!!!!) as there was no cost to the files in the link when I posted it (only to the back issues as it states in the bit below at the bottom).

I will explore around a bit - in the meantime there is a free 22 Page PDF here:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documents/the-ufo-files-extract.pdf

(which shows up on the right hand side of the page)



a 13 page Briefing Document (PDF) here:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documents/aug-2009-research-guide.pdf

regarding background material (also on right hand side of page)



6 Page Explanatory transcript here:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documents/ufo-transcript-aug-09.pdf




or you can play/listen to videocast (Dr. Davis Clarke) on original page (interesting!) :

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ufos/




There is also an 8 page explanatory/introductory PDF (with some interesting but not detailed summaries) of sightings/events here:

highlights guide (or if that doesn't work try this)

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documents/aug-2009-highlights-guide.pdf



As the above are still available I won't ask a BG to delete just yet as some may find them useful however it is a pity that the other files can not be accessed free at the moment.

When I saw Rians post, I tried the links and the ones on the lefthand side were for sale at £3.50 but the ones on the right just had 'Free - add to basket' on them. Thought I would test once more after seeing dszens post and could not get to the others either (very strange as it was only a little while later).

Maybe the others were free just for a limited time although it didn't say this and the wording regarding/requesting payment specifically for back issues seems to indicate that there isn't a charge for the others (unless they have just not got round to changing the wording on the page yet).

I will try to access the others and post back.

Edit: Thanks for above Kat7.

There is a bit of background here:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documents/14may08.pdf

Knightowl

There is a lot I could say on this subject (and I lot that I cannot).

Stephen Greer's "Disclosure Project" is worth investigation even if only to peek ones curiosity.

During my own research to uncover a series of odd happenings to myself, on a Spiritual plane/platform I did discuss remote viewing with somebody who taught it as a spiritual tool.
He had developed a series of "civilian" protocols to develop enhance Remote Viewing. It I must admit came as a surprise to myself at the time when the word "civilian" was used.
He revealed that he was part of a programme , a US military programme that was using the "tool" for espionage purposes. That he left it when the US military got fixated on "UFO's"
Was he for real ........ I had no reason to doubt and certainly was given nothing to sense its lack of validity. It did make me question if they don't exist why would they want to Remote view them?

The work of the late "JOHN E. MACK" especially his book "ABDUCTION:Human Encounters With Aliens" is well worth a read.
Incidentally I purchased this book from Oxfam in 2004 and on getting it home discovered it was signed. That very same day he died after being hit by a drunk driver.

Mozart321

From Kat Above (my comments in non-bold)

"There's a good introductory write up on the UFO books website I found I'll copy and paste it here if that's OK.

There is something big happening on our little planet. Those who have taken a little time to look into it will find the evidence overwhelming. Here we provide links to some of the most up-to-date and well researched UFO books and other reading matter for the informed, the convinced and the open-minded individual with an interest in the UFO phenomenon and UFO sightings.

OK just an introduction

We have been aware of the UFO phenomenon mostly since the late forties although there is evidence of UFO sightings going much further back into man's history found in ancient writings and illustrations.

UFO just means Unidentified Flying Object. Of course there are always things in the sky which could be man-made or natural weather phenomenon etc. This is in itself not an unfair statement.

The open-minded amongst us recognise that mankind is a young, emerging civilisation developing precariously on a very small planet on the edge of an enormous galaxy containing billions of stars and planets. Our galaxy in turn is one of millions of galaxies separated by distances beyond the comprehension of the average human being.

Yep, again a generally true statement,

It must be clear to any intelligent person that the probability of life developing on other suitable planets is very high.

[/B] Yes indeed, there is almost definitely life on other planets

We regard ourselves as intelligent and advanced beings. But in reality our scientific discoveries and developments have only really progressed significantly during the last 200 years or so. What can we know of the capabilities of beings on other planets who may have had the opportunity of thousands or even millions of years of scientific development? Are some of them now here observing us from their silent black triangles, bright orbs, steely cylinders and discs that accelerate from a standstill to thousands of miles per hour in an instant?

OK, we have really only progressed technologically in the last 200 years, correct - although of course, we have been using metals etc for a lot longer.

The question "are they observing us" doesn't tell me anything, other than just an emotive question.

Some of these sightings are attributed by a few to advanced government black projects such as the mythical TR-3B using anti-gravity propulsion reverse-engineered from alien technology. This in itself would be revealing and mind-boggling.

Huh? Which sightings? Who attributed them? It would indeed by revealing and mind-boggling. But what does it mean| Where is the proof?

Some sceptics discount UFO sightings saying that we cannot have been visited simply because of the huge distances involved and even at the theoretical light speed limit travelling times are immense and impractical. Many scientists however question Einstein's theory, and the fact that we are clearly the subject of thousands of visitations suggests that there may be alternatives to slogging through space from point-to-point.

[\B] Some sceptics may say this, but that doesn't mean anything. Which scientists are questioning Einstein's theory ?
It is a fact that we are clearly subject to thousands of visitations? Anyone can write that. Again, where is the evidence?

There is much talk of governments holding back information about UFO sightings from the general public for various reasons and organisations exist demanding their disclosure.

Who is talking? Just because somebody is talking, doesn't mean it's true

There are risks that governments disclosing their UFO knowledge, clarification of Roswell and Area 51 and maybe the display of an alien body could precipitate the collapse of religions around the world. However, religious beliefs are strong and capable of adaptation.

Just because there would be risks, doesn't mean it's true

On the other hand would disclosure make us look to the skies in awe united as one on our little planet instead of glaring at each other suspiciously and threateningly across borders and oceans?

Probably, but again, no proof of anything, just talk. Roswell has been seriously debunked, it was a weather balloon and there is no evidence to the contrary. And what is the evidence that there is anything in area 51 other than military technology,.



Please somebody show me some specific proof.

Pip26

I have found some more related links for you whilst I am still trying the get the previously free files.

http://drdavidclarke.blogspot.com/2009/03/national-archives-release-ufo-files-3.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/aug/17/mod-report-ufo-sightings

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/may/14/spaceexploration.military


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7398108.stm



<LI class=toclevel-1>1 What is a UFO? <LI class=toclevel-1>2 UK History of UFOs 1909-1950 <LI class=toclevel-1>3 Media and Establishment Scrutiny <LI class=toclevel-1>4 The Flying Saucer Working Party 1950-1951 <LI class=toclevel-1>5 Sightings Continue from 1952 <LI class=toclevel-1>6 Key Documents Held at the National Archives

• <LI class=toclevel-2>6.1 TNA Press Releases <LI class=toclevel-2>6.2 Examples of references found in TNAs Catalogue <LI class=toclevel-2>6.3 Records of the Air Historical Branch
• 6.4 Prime Minister’s Office

<LI class=toclevel-1>7 Ministry of Defence Archives <LI class=toclevel-1>8 The National Archives podcast <LI class=toclevel-1>9 Suggestions for further reading

• <LI class=toclevel-2>9.1 Publications
• 9.2 Articles

<LI class=toclevel-1>10 Acknowledgement


http://www.culture24.org.uk/science+%2526+nature/space/art70999

- this one says the files were available for a month which doesn't explain why some were free when I clicked on them earlier today.

Thats all folks! - have done my best!!! HTH.

P.

Mozart321

blade888 wrote: »

Haha, there isn't such a things like UFO, Ghosts, Vampires and so on.. It's a entertainment that turns in to big money industry.. And if there is a civilisation more developed then us, or spiritual world or whatever, then we are not cappable with our science to see that thing.. describing this thing to us, even from such a fenomena is like describing whats the look of green color to a blind person ) If we knew that there is a good or have proof of that, and that destiny is already written, would be in that case made one step of all this that we have achieved..?

marked as abuse - please do the same, this is just an advert at the bottom

Knightowl

Mozart321,

Your statements cannot be faulted and I could not agree or disagree more:cool:

Mozart321

Knightowl wrote: »

Mozart321,

Your statements cannot be faulted and I could not agree or disagree more:cool:

which one?
lol

babymoo

Mozart321 wrote: »

Babyboo, how can you mean "Anyone who thinks that the only life is on this planet is seriously stupid"? An Ad-Homenem (look it up) attack is not really called for. I myself belive that there is life on other planets, but not necessarily that they are visiting us in UFOs, as the interstellar distances are too great.
Also, just because somebody believes something, doesn't mean they;re stupid. I am an atheist, but I don't consider people that believe in God are stupid. I am a vegetarian, but I don't believe meat eaters are stupid.
Everybody has their own point of view. Please consider changing your post above.

Just my opinion and I believe I am entitled to it? I don't mean to cause offence with my opinion so I apologise.

I never said they were stupid for not believing in UFO's just that some people think earth is the only planet with life on.