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The real price of a mortgage: 6.49%

Forget interest rates at 0.5%. First time buyers are paying the highest rates in years - which is why talk of a housing market recovery is bunk

What's the most popular mortgage in the market at the moment? Perhaps you've read about HSBC's 1.99% deal? Or you know of people on tracker loans who are paying virtually nothing for their home loans? Well, the truth is out. Countrywide, Britain's biggest estate agency, revealed this morning the most popular mortgage taken out by buyers at its near-1,000 strong chain of branches.
No, it's not down at 1.99%, indeed it's nowhere near that level. "The most popular mortgage product applied for by nearly 800 Countrywide consultants across the UK required a deposit of 10% with an interest rate of 6.49%," said the company.
This fact stands out in huge contradiction to the guff put out by high house price promoters keen to convince us that the market is "recovering". Only last week, Halifax was talking about affordability falling below its 25-year average. Really? Not when the true rate paid by buyers is this high. This recovery, such as it is, will hit the buffers of affordability constraints almost immediately.




http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/blog/2009/sep/14/mortgage-rates-affordability-house-prices
It is nice to see the value of your house going up'' Why ?
Unless you are planning to sell up and not live anywhere, I can;t see the advantage.
If you are planning to upsize the new house will cost more.
If you are planning to downsize your new house will cost more than it should
If you are trying to buy your first house its almost impossible.

Comments

  • I don't think that HSBC are on Countrywide's panel of lenders!
    RICHARD WEBSTER

    As a retired conveyancing solicitor I believe the information given in the post to be useful assuming any properties concerned are in England/Wales but I accept no liability for it.
  • I think this is more relevant in the mortgage forum, or the boring house price obsessives forum.
    Been away for a while.
  • HSBC aren't on anyones panel as they don't deal with brokers

    What a silly article as it doesn't point out the differences between the two rates and to average Joe indicates that the brokers are not recommending the best product but are putting people onto the higher rates. Lets compare the two products

    The 1.99% is a tracker with a 40% deposit needed and £1299 fees

    the 6.49% is a 5 year fixed with a 10% deposit needed and no fees with £500 cash back.

    Surely no comparison can be made between the two as I am sure that if the average first time buyer had a 40% deposit they would go with HSBC but that isn't the case. Also there are very few trackers available currently with a 10% deposit (if any from memory - on day off today)

    Perhaps the fact that the 6.49% rate really says is that the first time buyers are coming back (hence the most sourced product being a 90% ltv product) and that the lenders at the high LTV's are making a large amount of profit although as this is a 5 year fixed I wouldn't imagine we will have a 0.5% base rate for the next 5 years it may not be too bad in the long run.
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  • I think this is more relevant in the mortgage forum, or the boring house price obsessives forum.


    Agreed, Georffky, you should pop over to this thread where there is more discussion on the subject http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1946405



    For anyone else interested, I recently found these mortgage products

    http://www.britannia.co.uk/home/_sit...xed-rates.html

    Britannia - 10% deposit, 5 year fix from 6.19%
    - 25% deposit, 5 year fix from 5.44%


    http://www.hsbc.co.uk/1/2/personal/m...FrUj:11j74lc1v

    HSBC - 10% deposit, 5 year fix from 6.49%
    - 25% deposit, 5 year fix from 5.59%

    I doubt you will get much more competative than those
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • keith969
    keith969 Posts: 1,575 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture
    Surely no comparison can be made between the two as I am sure that if the average first time buyer had a 40% deposit they would go with HSBC but that isn't the case. Also there are very few trackers available currently with a 10% deposit (if any from memory - on day off today)

    Maybe, but HSBC also offer a 90% mortgage for FTB's at 3.89%. That's a lot less than 6.49%.
    For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple and wrong.
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