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We are picking up the keys to our new place in a weeks time :j

However there is one concern and that's keys....When we went to the property to measure up for things they let us have the keys so we could take our time...We happened to notice that even though there is 4 locks there is only 3 keys one of the mortice lock keys is missing. I have queried this and was told that was all we were given...We're going to try them out when we get into the property as I presume that one mortice key can't do the lock on both the doors, presumably it's a landlords duty to provide keys to open all the doors isn't it-fire and safety and all that?

The other thing is how many sets of keys are they supposed to give you, is one acceptable? The last rented place i had I got two sets of keys but given that when I queried the missing key they said that was all they were given I am assuming we will only get one set unless the landlord hands over another on the day or something.

Just wanted to know what is correct and not before having to contact them again...
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  • NEH wrote: »
    The other thing is how many sets of keys are they supposed to give you, is one acceptable?

    I've rented quite a few properties over the years (8 in 7 years actually) and always been given/asked/argued that the number of keys issued should be the same as the number of signatures on the contract. Which is logical and fair.

    Any extra keys we have then had cut, with permission (ie emergency keys left with friends) we have paid for oursleves and then given back at the end of the tenancy. But you should get at least two sets of keys.

    HTH
  • clutton_2
    clutton_2 Posts: 11,149 Forumite
    you should have keys for all doors - LLs have to comply with health and safety and fire exits etc - i would delay signing the AST till you have all the keys
  • NEH
    NEH Posts: 2,464 Forumite
    What's the AST? Sorry if I'm being thick I don't do abbreviations very well...:o

    Thanks at least my suspicions were correct and I wans't being picky or anything...
  • chickmug
    chickmug Posts: 3,279 Forumite
    NEH wrote: »
    What's the AST? Sorry if I'm being thick I don't do abbreviations very well...:o

    Thanks at least my suspicions were correct and I wans't being picky or anything...

    Assured Shorthold Tenancy
    A retired senior partner, in own agency, with 40 years experience in property sales & new build. In latter part of career specialising in commercial - mostly business sales.
  • NEH
    NEH Posts: 2,464 Forumite
    chickmug wrote: »
    Assured Shorthold Tenancy


    We signed the lease last week when we went to get the keys to measure up....

    Think I will re query it and say that by law we have to have access to all doors...
  • clutton wrote: »
    you should have keys for all doors - LLs have to comply with health and safety and fire exits etc - i would delay signing the AST till you have all the keys

    Is the mortice lock without a key actually locked then? As I can't see how it would present a fire hazard if it's not. Bit of a pain, but as long as there's another working lock it's not really a security risk either.
  • NEH
    NEH Posts: 2,464 Forumite
    Pepzofio wrote: »
    Is the mortice lock without a key actually locked then? As I can't see how it would present a fire hazard if it's not. Bit of a pain, but as long as there's another working lock it's not really a security risk either.

    Aww right ok, so as long as one of the locks works it's ok....:confused:
  • Icey77
    Icey77 Posts: 1,247 Forumite
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    Can't you ask the LL to get the mortice lock replaced? If the keys have been lost it won't eb difficult to put a new lock in place of the old one.

    Do all the other locks conform to the requirements laid down by insurance companies? A rim lock is not considered secure enough by most insurance companies - the last thing you want is to find that your insurance won't pay out because you did not use a required level of security type lock.

    I would definitely ask the LL to replace it.
    Whether you think you can or you can’t, you’re probably right ~ Henry Ford
  • NEH
    NEH Posts: 2,464 Forumite
    Icey77 wrote: »
    Can't you ask the LL to get the mortice lock replaced? If the keys have been lost it won't eb difficult to put a new lock in place of the old one.

    Do all the other locks conform to the requirements laid down by insurance companies? A rim lock is not considered secure enough by most insurance companies - the last thing you want is to find that your insurance won't pay out because you did not use a required level of security type lock.

    I would definitely ask the LL to replace it.

    Each door has a yale and a mortice lock...

    We are going to ask the landlord if we can fit chains as I would feel better if they had them...
  • Icey77
    Icey77 Posts: 1,247 Forumite
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    NEH wrote: »
    Each door has a yale and a mortice lock...

    We are going to ask the landlord if we can fit chains as I would feel better if they had them...


    Chains are good for when you're in the house but you can't put them on when you go out. Most insurance companies require the front door (or main entrance) to a property have a 5 lever mortice lock or some such thing. I really wouldn't want to be in a position that my insurance won't pay out because the door didn't have a suitable lock on it.

    Anyway, hope you get it sorted :beer:
    Whether you think you can or you can’t, you’re probably right ~ Henry Ford
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