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Bank error in my favour?

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  • spindo
    spindo Posts: 70 Forumite
    Lol at all the drama queens screaming "Theft! Theft! Theft!":rotfl:You didnt ask for it to be put in your account.

    If it would have happened to me i'd have just left it there unused in my bank, i'd bide my time and if they asked for it back i'd give it back like a shot, if they didnt ask for it back i'd have waited and waited..and waited some more maybe years until I felt it a safe enough length of time had passed and then go on a nice cruise, buy a car etc etc.
  • Extant
    Extant Posts: 2,140 Forumite
    spindo wrote: »
    Lol at all the drama queens screaming "Theft! Theft! Theft!":rotfl:You didnt ask for it to be put in your account.

    Whether you ask for it or not does not alter whether or not it is theft - theft is the act of stealing, stealing is to take without permission or legal right and with no intention to return it.

    The poster has taken money without legal right (you might like to look up the legal concept of unjust enrichment).
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  • Errata
    Errata Posts: 38,230 Forumite
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    Any normal person finding an extra and unexpected £19k in their bank account would be phoning the bank immediately to sort it out. Theives don't do this, and dozy beggars hang onto it because they think they bank will never discover the error.
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  • spindo
    spindo Posts: 70 Forumite
    edited 9 September 2009 at 8:27PM
    Whether you ask for it or not does not alter whether or not it is theft - theft is the act of stealing, stealing is to take without permission or legal right and with no intention to return it.

    The poster has taken money without legal right (you might like to look up the legal concept of unjust enrichment).

    I already said if it happened to me I wouldnt spend it and would freely hand it back to the pesky bank if they asked for it back but I would leave it to them to sort out, I would probably open another bank account pronto elsewhere to do my day to day banking and leave the old account languishing with the £19,000 ready to hand back pronto. If they didnt contact me after a considerable amount of time (and I did hint it would probably be years not anything stupid like weeks or months) I would feel safe enough to go on that world cruise. Sorry if that annoys you but I suspect many other normal people who would not fit into the thieving stereotype would do the same. The banks are the biggest thieves of the lot! :D
  • Fedz
    Fedz Posts: 1,096 Forumite
    As said by most others you owe the money back sadly!

    You knew it was an error & the money wasn't yours.

    Unless you get it specifically in writing that the unexpected 19k credited to your bank account - then in a no win situation.

    Clever people open a linked savings account > gain interest, then when asked for it returning, you've gain a little :D

    I'd be surprised if they prosecute you but, as you aren't working and offered 10k then they'll let you pay 9k off bit-by-bit as a 'goodwill gesture' on their part error ;)
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  • opinions4u
    opinions4u Posts: 19,411 Forumite
    edited 9 September 2009 at 8:17PM
    I'd be surprised if they prosecute
    A succesful prosecution for that sort of theft would,. typically, end in a 9 month prison sentence.

    My view is that in cases where it is obviously not the customer's money and those funds are then spent, it is clearly theft.

    In those cases the banks should (and most would) prosecute.

    If I was to believe your story..........and I don't, I would answer:

    That letter is a mistake just as the original transfer. You still owe the money.
    Pay it back, or the bank will take you to court. You have no defence.

    Hope you had a good time spending the dosh!

    (As I said, I don't believe the story in the first place.)
    Nah, I'm not convinced either ;) .
  • hippey
    hippey Posts: 849 Forumite
    Wow, almost like monopoly......

    In reality, the money ain't yours. If you have spent it......... thats a problem.
    These are my thoughts and no one else's, so like any public forum advice - check it out before entering into contracts or spending your hard earned cash!

    I don't know everything, however I do try to point people in the right direction but at the end of the day you can only ever help yourself!
  • M_Thomson
    M_Thomson Posts: 1,596 Forumite
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    spindo wrote: »
    Lol at all the drama queens screaming "Theft! Theft! Theft!":rotfl:You didnt ask for it to be put in your account.

    If it would have happened to me i'd have just left it there unused in my bank, i'd bide my time and if they asked for it back i'd give it back like a shot, if they didnt ask for it back i'd have waited and waited..and waited some more maybe years until I felt it a safe enough length of time had passed and then go on a nice cruise, buy a car etc etc.

    Your morals are abysmal and inexcusable. Just like the OP. It is Theft, no ifs no buts. It is theft.
  • Actually if I found 19k unexpectedly in my bank account I'd move it to a high interest savings account, then wait for someone to come looking for it. Hopefully I'd earn some nice interest on that in the 2 months of delay tactics I could draw up before giving it back ;)
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  • Lokolo
    Lokolo Posts: 20,861 Forumite
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    Actually if I found 19k unexpectedly in my bank account I'd move it to a high interest savings account, then wait for someone to come looking for it. Hopefully I'd earn some nice interest on that in the 2 months of delay tactics I could draw up before giving it back ;)

    Haha yeh I would insist that they communicate via post. Have a few letters 'lost' along the way, and ask trivial questions, like one letter "How would you like me to send the money? Yours faithfully' and just keep the ball rolling for as long as possible. :cool:
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