We'd like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum... Read More »
PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
AST 12 month extension with break clause from Month 1??

Pepzofio
Posts: 540 Forumite
Has anyone ever heard of this?
I recently received a letter from LA about renewing my existing AST which is due to end in a month or so. Extension fee is £46, which I am happy to pay for 12 months security of tenure, as I love the house, LL & LA are on the whole great and I have no plans to move for the foreseeable future.
HOWEVER... LA mentioned this morning that either party can give notice at any time during the extension (1mth from tnt, 2 from LL) as it includes a release clause from month 1! As far as I can see, this puts me in no better a position than simply rolling onto a statutory periodic, so what's the point? (The only possible advantage I can see is fixing the rent for 12 months, but what's to stop LL serving notice and offering the tenancy back at a higher rent?)
Is this even a legal/valid break clause? As I was under the impression that a fixed term could not be for less than 6 months. (Not sure if it makes a difference, but the extension agreement is just a single sheet of paper, rather than a whole new AST.)
LA has given the usual spiel about "LL is not going to serve notice as this is an investment property for him". I know from a neighbour that LL inherited the property from parents (who lived there) so it is unlikely he has a BTL mortgage to get caught out by when rates rise - but even if he has no intention of selling now, his circs could easily change unexpectedly. Surely the point of an extension is to give LL & tnt some security?
Thanks in advance.
I recently received a letter from LA about renewing my existing AST which is due to end in a month or so. Extension fee is £46, which I am happy to pay for 12 months security of tenure, as I love the house, LL & LA are on the whole great and I have no plans to move for the foreseeable future.
HOWEVER... LA mentioned this morning that either party can give notice at any time during the extension (1mth from tnt, 2 from LL) as it includes a release clause from month 1! As far as I can see, this puts me in no better a position than simply rolling onto a statutory periodic, so what's the point? (The only possible advantage I can see is fixing the rent for 12 months, but what's to stop LL serving notice and offering the tenancy back at a higher rent?)
Is this even a legal/valid break clause? As I was under the impression that a fixed term could not be for less than 6 months. (Not sure if it makes a difference, but the extension agreement is just a single sheet of paper, rather than a whole new AST.)
LA has given the usual spiel about "LL is not going to serve notice as this is an investment property for him". I know from a neighbour that LL inherited the property from parents (who lived there) so it is unlikely he has a BTL mortgage to get caught out by when rates rise - but even if he has no intention of selling now, his circs could easily change unexpectedly. Surely the point of an extension is to give LL & tnt some security?
Thanks in advance.
0
Comments
-
I would refuse to pay £46 for something that gives you no rights beyond those you'd get under statutory law if the tenancy rolled over into a periodic one.
Yes a tenancy can be for less than 6 months, though they wouldn't be able to get a court to evict you during the first 6 months.0 -
Good news! LA has spoken to LL and he is happy to renew without a break clause. :cheesy:0
-
yeah, they were having you on. They wanted to give you nothing more than a statutory periodic and charge you for it. Personally, I've always thought that providing nothing for something should be considered fraud
But if they had given you a new AST, under statute you would have a minimum 6 month fixed term. So if the LL had wanted you out they would have been in trouble.0
This discussion has been closed.
Confirm your email address to Create Threads and Reply

Categories
- All Categories
- 351.4K Banking & Borrowing
- 253.3K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
- 453.8K Spending & Discounts
- 244.4K Work, Benefits & Business
- 599.7K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
- 177.1K Life & Family
- 258K Travel & Transport
- 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
- 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
- 37.6K Read-Only Boards