Migrants to UK 'returning home'

MissMoneypenny

Really2 wrote: »

Would that include benefits that are received by people who work and have children?

I can believe the figure (you can earn over £50K and get tax credits) but the quote makes it sound like they are not working.

People who work who have children can also claim benefits for childcare costs. Some can also claim working tax credits.

Child Tax Credits alone for 2007/08 cost 15.68 billion.

Really2

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

People who work who have children can also claim benefits for childcare costs. Some can also claim working tax credits.

Child Tax Credits alone for 2007/08 cost 15.68 billion.

OK so the majority of working people claim some kind of child benefit they are they are allowed to claim.

So how much do those people who can work because of the "incentives" put back in to the economy and GDP through being able to work?

boyse7en

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Parents/Childcare/DG_4016029

Sorry, but I can't see the bit on that page where it shows that 90% of families with children are on benefits.
It does show what benefits may be available if you are eligible, but I can't find figures on the take-up of those benefits.

IveSeenTheLight

boyse7en wrote: »

Sorry, but I can't see the bit on that page where it shows that 90% of families with children are on benefits.
It does show what benefits may be available if you are eligible, but I can't find figures on the take-up of those benefits.

I couldn't see them either, however, to get back on topic, do people accept with the facts presented that there is unlikely to be any significany affect even if the the net migration were to become negative?

Net migration last year was 0.625% of the UK population. If a similar amount left, would it make that much difference?

inspector_monkfish

Pietr Nowak, a Polish joiner who has been working in Doncaster for two years, said: "I no understand why you all live here? It very bad.

"You come Poland, work for my Uncle Lech, sleep in attic, eat soup. Is much better than Doncastings, yes?"


http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/job-ads-to-encourage-lazy-british-imbeciles-200909082042/

MissMoneypenny

boyse7en wrote: »

It does show what benefits may be available if you are eligible, but I can't find figures on the take-up of those benefits.

Not quite. It said
"Nine out of ten families with children qualify for Child Tax Credit."

For the figures on the take up of child tax credits, see my previous post.

ninky_2

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Brown has outsourced much of the visa controls to "sponsors". These are recognised employers and universities. The majority of the points you need to obtain a UK visa are obtained just from having a certificate if acceptance (for a job or college place) from your sponsor. Much of the burden of working out if an applicant is genuine is now down to thousands of organisations who have no clue what they are doing.

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i've looking into getting a student visa for my brother-in-law. the points seem fairly straightforward to me. you need to prove evidence of adequate funds for your time in the UK to the institutions involved. what's the problem with that? UK students apply to go and study overseas all the time too. giving someone a student visa is not the same as giving them citizenship or permanent resident status. likewise, employers can only grant visas for certain positions and in certain cases to non EU immigrants.

as for being an open country. we recently applied for my mother in law and brother in law to visit us for a 2 week holiday. their application was declined due to not having certain documents translated into english. they then appealed with the correct documents. the original application was in april. we were hoping they could come and visit in august as it is the school holidays and they could get time off work. a call to the helpline and i was told it is a 4 month wait at the moment to get the appeal processed. all this for a family visit!

MissMoneypenny

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

I couldn't see them either,

It's about a third of the way down the page.

Really2

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

Not quite. It said
"Nine out of ten families with children qualify for Child Tax Credit."

For the figures on the take up of child tax credits, see my previous post.

To be fair the reason a few of us questioned it was because you said.

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

Not since it was realised that 9 out of 10 families with children are claiming benefits.

Any

inspector_monkfish wrote: »

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/job-ads-to-encourage-lazy-british-imbeciles-200909082042/

Where did you get that from? It's really funny... and in many cases so true.. :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: