Proof wirral council admit council tax unlawful

LeeSouthEast

Righto. I'll carry on paying mine, if it's all the same. I like my bins emptied, my libraries open, and police on the end of 999.

capability_brown

slovan wrote: »

HI Dave not true I'm afraid

the council along with others is trading as private corporation with shareholders -

Could you post up evidence that Wirral Council actually have shareholders, and could you please name them? Also, what dividend they received last year?

slovan

QUOTE from 'smoke n mirrors':

"however you look at it, the council have been extenuating money from every home owner for years.

If they spent the money wisely, the bin men would visit once a week everywhere in the UK.

They would should never have privatised the rubbish collection.

That way we would pay less because we wouldn't be paying shareholders profits.

If the council were operating within a legal frame work, they would have been paid.

The fact that Jim refuses to pay money to a corporation, that is corrupt is to the benefit of us all.

Maybe if more people woke up to the scams, pulled by local and national government we wouldn't be in the mess we find ourselves today"

puddy

but no system is perfect, if people were that bothered about the privatisation of their services, which has been going on for years, then there would be more independents standing for mp and local councillors and more people voting for them. we are as a nation, apathetic, therefore we cope with what we are given. im more than happy to pay for the services i receive even though they are not perfect. i would not be able to buy those services for the price of my council tax.

what job does jim do by the way?

MTField

The level of knowledge of some on here is typical of people who've spent a lifetime sucking up all the distractions of life that the system has thrown at them.

I suggest they keep it zipped and go back to watching sports, drinking beer, getting married and breeding whilst remaining good little subservient debt slaves.

First of all, neither personal taxation (income tax) nor council tax goes towards paying for ANY local services. As someone has correctly mentioned, it simply pays the interest on the money LOANED to the government by the private company known as the Bank of England. Always has, always will. The ramifications of this little revelation are immense and mean that by design, their CAN NEVER be enough money in circulation to pay the debt back. So, essentially we are trapped by some very clever and determined people in a system which was instigated to keep the vast majority poor whilst filtering the money to the elite at the top. No, not conspiracy, fact. And the sooner those in the dark wake up the better as time is short now.

To the best of my knowledge, corporation tax or business tax is used to fund our social services. Bin men, schools etc. etc.

So, good on this man for standing up for his rights! Long overdue is what I say. We are all coerced into becoming part of a deception by power hungry fools who are now well and truly in control as they've been making the rules for the last century (AND MORE). The police force serves as nothing more than the elites enforcement arm, and really does little more than issue and collect illegal fines and penalties for trivial things which it deems to be offences. Speeding, etc etc.

If this offends anybody's sensibilities then GOOD! As I said, time is short so go and arm yourselves with a true and accurate version of the world you and your kids live in because the sad reality is, people who are still in the box and don't see are used to police those that do.

How can people not see what's going on here? Are you blind? I swear it takes more effort now to keep you head in teh sand than to open your eyes. Stop indocrinating each other with the same old rubbish and WAKE UP!gl

LeeSouthEast

Excellent. I'm off to drink beer and may then consider breeding if there is sufficient available credit on my 14th credit card to buy her a MaccyD Special.

MTField wrote: »

The police force serves as nothing more than the elites enforcement arm, and really does little more than issue and collect illegal fines and penalties for trivial things which it deems to be offences. Speeding, etc etc.

I'll be sure to remember that the next time they talk a son or daughter down off a cliff. Insensitive clod.

MTField

It speaks volumes sir that your mind chose to focus on, comment on and quote my simplification of the police force. I had taken it as read that someone with a modicum of intelligence would comprehend that the police also help out when the chips are down too.

I'd also be delighted to hear your comments on the Bank of England loaning the money in circulation to the government of the day in return for interest on this loan which is actually paid for through the income tax system currently in operation in the UK. Any thoughts?

Or perhaps on my comments about those that don't see being used to police those that do. Ahem!

LeeSouthEast, I hope you've stocked up on beer. Maybe you should consider a second fridge?gl

LeeSouthEast

Not a bad idea. Tesco have an offer on at the moment!

andrew-b

MTField wrote: »

Stop indocrinating each other with the same old rubbish

If anyone should stop indoctrinating it's you and your friend slovan and "jim" - probably all the same person anyway judging by you've not seen the need to join or post here before (and it took you two days to come up with that!!). What has any of this to do with this section of the forum though i'm still not sure. To be honest any credibility of this "no council tax" campaign is lost...this is the wrong way of trying to indoctrinate your own views towards others. Nothing is certain in life but death and taxes..get over it!

asbokid

andrew-b wrote: »

To be honest any credibility of this "no council tax" campaign is lost...this is the wrong way of trying to indoctrinate your own views towards others. Nothing is certain in life but death and taxes..get over it!

There's a similar anti-tax campaign in the USA. Many libertarians, including Aaron Russo, the late filmmaker, famous towards the end of his life for exposing the 9/11 Hoax, believe that Federal Income Tax is illegal. Russo and others claim the tax violates the Constitution.

I saw some interesting footage in which the head of the IRS was interviewed. He essentially admitted there is no law allowing for the collection of Fed. Inc. Tax, but that the crime has been going on for so long, no government is willing to stop it!!