pcn for not showing permit in resident bay

oh_know

Hi,
The flat I rent has residential parking bays for each flat, I have a permit which I put on the dash board when I park in my bay.

I have just received a "notice to owner" it would seem for an offence in late June where it is suggested I did not have my permit on display.

I do not recall getting a notice, so assume that it was taken from the car, nor do I recall not having my permit on display - although this is possible (of course).

The notice is from Trinity Parking solutions Ltd and is a fine for £100 (originally £50 it would seem). The notice says that I must pay it or it will increase to £151.75 (admin charge) Or that I can refer (appeal).

I have read lots of advice and am not sure whether to:
A) Simply leave it and see if they eventually give up - although it would worry me a bit, I mean would they really give up? (How much could I pay!)

Write them a letter of appeal - to say that I never got the ticket and show them a photo copy of my permit


[FONT=&quot]What are your thoughts ?[/FONT]

Cheers folks

peter_the_piper

Don't ever waste your time appealing, how would the ppc ever make any money if they did?

The usual advice is to ignore them.

oh_know

Rather than totally ignore I am hoping I might be able to get them off my back now, by sending them something which will make them see that A) I have a permit and I am not going to waste my time with them in any future correspondence

What do you think...........

Address 1[FONT=&quot]
[/FONT] Address 2
Address 3
[FONT=&quot]PCN No: XXXXXXXXX [/FONT][FONT=&quot]

Date of Issue: DD/MM/2009
Vehicle Registration Number: REGISTRATION NBR

Dear Sir / Madam

Re: your letter dated DD/MM/2009[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]It seems that you have got my details from the DVLA and I confirm I am the keeper of the vehicle in question. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I acknowledge receipt of your letter. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]This vehicle has a valid residence parking permit permanently on display – I have enclosed a copy of the permit. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]If you wish to pursue this allegation further, please supply me with the following documents:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Photographic evidence showing the absence of a valid permit on this vehicle [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]A copy of the original Notice[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Details of the identity of the driver at the time the vehicle was parked[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Evidence of any contract you believe you have with myself pertaining to parking charges[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]If these documents are not supplied, any further correspondence from yourselves will be ignored.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]In the meantime I absolutely deny your claim that the amount claimed, or any amount at all is due to you from me.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Kind regards [/FONT]

sarahg1969

I personally wouldn't bother. It won't achieve anything except to encourage them to bother you a bit more.

If you are desperate to write, you could write stating simply that you are satisied that you fulfilled all of your obligations and that no debt is owed.

juliescot

Just to clarify they have not sent you a "fine" they have sent you an invoice.

Ignore - do not write to them, it will only add fuel to the fire and they will not let go.
If you ignore them it is more than likely that they will, after more threatening letters, give up. Not worth their efforts.

oh_know

OK I am not going to send anything - they can whistle for it ! will keep the letter in any case though - seeing as I Typed it up

thanks for all your help

oh_know

Hi, I chose not to respond - and I just got another letter this time from debt recovery plus ltd. The letter says that:

____

it is a legal requirement to send a notice of intended litigation before legal proceedings in the county court are issued. This letter fulfils this requirement even if it is not actually read by you.
To prevent legal action from being taken it is essential that you settle this debt without delay, please contact the office on 0844 561 0965 with your payment or payment offer.

Unless you pay us the amount in full within 10 days or contact us immediately with your proposals for payment our solicitors may commence legal action against you. If successful this could lead to a county court judgment being issued against you. Enforcement options include:
Warrant of execution by bailiffs against goods owned
An attachment or earnings order
Your personal effects being sold to pay the amount at judgment

It will also be requested that the court award statuary interest, court costs and legal fees which will significantly increase the amount outstanding.

Bla Bla Bla

Ignoring this letter will not make it go away legal proceedings will follow

You can view a selection of successful CCJ's on our website https://www.drpl.co.uk

____

Interestingly this letter has my address slightly wrong ! - not quite wrong enough for it to be delivered to the wrong address but it refers to my road as XXXX Way rather than XXXX road !

Thoughts ? - ignore again ??

Cheers

oldone_2

If you look at other similar threads you will see this is a pretty standard letter deliberately couched in terms to frighten you into thinking that it is legal document giving notice of intended prosecution.

Continue to ignore this and the subsequent final,final,final notices before litigation. If they were really going to persue this invoice through the courts, they would just go ahead and do it.

Remember you had a valid permit for where you parked - end of story.

oldone_2

Just had a look at the link you gave giving their "successful CCJ's"

All it is, is a list of names, amounts, and their internal reference numbers. No court details, or what the debts were for. Just meaningless rubbish. This is an indication of how desperate they are to frighten you into thinking they have any sort of case that would stand up in court.

sarahg1969

The references look like genuine court references. However, there's nothing to say that any of those references relates to parking invoices. They could relate to any type of claim - presumably ones where there is a genuine debt!

bargepole

oh_know wrote: »

... our solicitors may commence legal action against you. If successful this could lead to a county court judgment being issued against you.
...

Yep. And Gordon Brown may decide to abolish income tax. It could win him the next election.