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Bank Shares to Fall In September..Why?

I have read in 2 or 3 places that Llloydstsb and RBS shares are expected to fall in September.

Is there any special reason for this.

Thanks
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  • bendix
    bendix Posts: 5,499 Forumite
    They may, or they may not.

    People talk about September, solely because historically it has been the worst month for sharemarket performance statistically, whereas December has always been the strongest.

    It's a lot of nonsense.

    It's amazing, isnt it. The people who talk about this economy and market being completely unprecedented are the same people saying we need to beware of September because of historical trends.

    Well, which is it people?
  • cheerfulcat
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    LULULU1 wrote: »
    I have read in 2 or 3 places that Llloydstsb and RBS shares are expected to fall in September.

    Is there any special reason for this.

    Thanks

    Presumably because that's when the serious ( institutional ) investors come back to the market - trading is usually quite thin over the summer.
  • purch
    purch Posts: 9,865 Forumite
    I have read in 2 or 3 places

    Which 2 or 3 places ?
    'In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences.'
  • 00ec25
    00ec25 Posts: 9,123 Forumite
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    LULULU1 wrote: »
    I have read in 2 or 3 places that Llloydstsb shares are expected to fall in September.

    good, I shall buy some more and make even more money when the dividend restarts and I sell in 5 years time after they have recovered back to £5
  • StevieJ
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    Presumably because that's when the serious ( institutional ) investors come back to the market - trading is usually quite thin over the summer.

    Are you saying that the fund/pension managers who charge 1.5% + don't do any work for 3 months :eek:
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • Masomnia
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    00ec25 wrote: »
    good, I shall buy some more and make even more money when the dividend restarts and I sell in 5 years time after they have recovered back to £5

    Good luck with that...
    “I could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled.” - P.G. Wodehouse
  • sabretoothtigger
    sabretoothtigger Posts: 10,036 Forumite
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    edited 27 August 2009 at 6:55PM
    If RBS 'recover' to £5 'like they used to be' it would make them one of worlds largest companies at £282bn
    The whole of Exxon is only $350bn


    RBS Market Data

    Currency UK Pounds Share Price 55.55p price_down.gif
    Shares Issued 56,369m
    Market Cap £31,313m
    HSBC is valued £115bn and they are valued at 20 times their earnings.


    It'd be about the same as swapping Shell, BP, HSBC just to buy RBS which doesnt seem likely to ever happen
  • cheerfulcat
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    Are you saying that the fund/pension managers who charge 1.5% + don't do any work for 3 months :eek:

    Well, July/August anyway...for example, this Reuters article warns
    In financial markets, there is also a plausible explanation for summer crises -- or at least why they have such a profound impact. With many market players away, trading volumes are usually much lighter but any volatility is much greater.
    "If you are an asset manager, you should take a much more defensive position over the summer, particularly if you are going to be away for some time -- certainly more so than if you are going away at another time of year," said Michael Ganske, head of emerging markets research at Commerzbank. "Any market moves will be much greater."
  • 00ec25
    00ec25 Posts: 9,123 Forumite
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    but I deleted RBS from my reply if you read it again, it was for LLOY only, even so it was ;)
  • Masomnia
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    00ec25 wrote: »
    but I deleted RBS from my reply if you read it again, it was for LLOY only, even so it was ;)

    You're still looking at them being valued higher than BP. Not holding my breath, sorry!
    “I could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled.” - P.G. Wodehouse
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