Ten days left to buy traditional lightbulbs: EU ban on 1 Sep

DKLS

I have around 30 years supply in the garage, cannot abide those low energy bulbs, totally useless.

Bongedone

Only 100w bulbs are being phased out on the 1st Sept. Can I also ask whats "green and ethical" about encouraging stock piling of environmental poor bulbs?

Should this not be in the "quick grab it now" board?

Bongedone

Barneysmom wrote: »

What do we do, we've got a dimmer in the living room, it controls a 3 bulb pendant light fitting?

You can get halogen bulbs. They use 30% less energy and can be dimmed.

Here is a link to one. You can get them cheaper and in many shapes and wattages:

http://www.lightonenergy.co.uk/28W-Halogen-Candles-p/halogen-candle.htm

amcluesent

Energy saving light bulbs offer dim future

Soon they will be the only kind of light bulb allowed, but now officials in Brussels have admitted that energy-saving bulbs are not as bright as the old-fashioned kind they are replacing.

Under normal household conditions, using a single lamp to light a room, an 11W low-energy CFL produced only 58 per cent of the illumination of an "equivalent" 60W bulb – even after a 10-minute "warm-up".

dori2o

They should not be allowed to phase out the normal bulbs until such a time as energy saving bulbs are sold for a reasonable price.

I have a light fitting which takes 6 Small Bayonet Cap candle bulbs, I only use 25W bulbs in it, but 6 of them give off more than enough light. I get them from the local bits and bobs store at 29p per bulb. The energy saving ones, especially Small Bayonet Cap bulbs, cost at least £2 each, and don't give off enough light. So to replace them would cost me at leastr £12, instead of £1.74, even if I currently have to change the bulbs every 6 months, it would mean the energy saving bulbs have to last 3 and a half years for me to break even.

Maybe a chance to make money on Ebay if you have the funds to stock up on conventional bulbs because they are still in very high demand.

Bongedone

dori2o wrote: »

They should not be allowed to phase out the normal bulbs until such a time as energy saving bulbs are sold for a reasonable price.

I have a light fitting which takes 6 Small Bayonet Cap candle bulbs, I only use 25W bulbs in it, but 6 of them give off more than enough light. I get them from the local bits and bobs store at 29p per bulb. The energy saving ones, especially Small Bayonet Cap bulbs, cost at least £2 each, and don't give off enough light. So to replace them would cost me at leastr £12, instead of £1.74, even if I currently have to change the bulbs every 6 months, it would mean the energy saving bulbs have to last 3 and a half years for me to break even.





Maybe a chance to make money on Ebay if you have the funds to stock up on conventional bulbs because they are still in very high demand.

Actually you will break even before 12 months. You are not taking into account electricity costs:

At 12 months your normal bulbs would cost £21.54 compared to the low energy ones at £17.05. At year 6 which is the expected lifespan you would pay £129.28 for normal bulbs inc. running costs and £37.29 for the low energy one.

Figures based on 11p a unit and 3 hours a day. Using 7w low energy bulb which is equivelent of 35w so will cover any lumin losses. Also not taking into account the likely increase in cost of electricity.

Edited 1st answer as I only counted the fitting as having one bulb.

If you use your bulbs for a different length of time or have a different unit cost then post it up. I will put the new figures in the spreadsheet I just made.

dori2o

the thing is that the electricity used, is for me, unseen money as I pay a monthly amount on the first of every month that more than covers my useage. What I will see is the outlay of having to buy the bulbs from the money I physically see.

Plus the fact that energy saving bulbs are ugly, are larger than normal candle bulbs and don't give off the same amount of light.

It is OK forcing everyone to buy energy saving bulbs, but the cost of them has to be brought down to a reasonable level. Currently it is not.

Plus all this climate change crap is complete BS designed to keep people under control, but that is another discussion entirely.

Bongedone

You don't have to believe in climate change. We are rapidly running out of energy. Oil won't be around forever and we should conserve what we have.

I have just shown you that you will save money. Your fixed monthly payment gets adjusted once a year. The cost of the bulbs will plummet once that is all you can buy.

You don't need to worry though as your standard bulbs will not be phased out for a while yet.

Fire_Fox

dori2o wrote: »

the thing is that the electricity used, is for me, unseen money as I pay a monthly amount on the first of every month that more than covers my useage. What I will see is the outlay of having to buy the bulbs from the money I physically see.

That is a completely illogical argument.

dori2o

why is it illogical?

I have a monthly budget of money I can use after I have paid all my bills. My bills never change as I pay the same amounts every month.

therefore if I have to pay out for energy saving bulbs, that's at least £15, as opposed to less than £2.

The money I use to pay my bills I never see anyway, so if I have overpaid them come Christmas it's a bonus and we use the money on nights out etc. So during the year I don't see the benefit of having energy saving bulbs.