Exploding iphones & ipods

jmc160

Marty_J wrote: »

The only major engineering decision Apple made with regard to the battery is to make it non user-replaceable, thus enabling them to make the iPhone thinner and lighter than it otherwise would have been.

Sorry, but I don't agree with this. My wife has an iPhone and it is indeed a fantastic bit of kit (so much so I may get one too when my current contract runs out), but I have a Samsung Omnia, it has the same storage capacity, actually it has more thanks to the MicroSD slot, it has a user-replaceable battery and it's much thinner and lighter than the iPhone.

I'm just gonna have to remain cynical for now and agree with Butterbeanmash on the reasons for sealing it.

asininity

cyberbob wrote: »

I find threads like this pretty stupid and petty. You have a bee in your bonnet against apple. Thats your perogative. Apple doesnt really need your custom anyway. So as far as I understand it you have started this thread as an excuse so you can have another anti-apple rant. You obviously have a little too much time on your hands. By the way apple don't make batteries.

I personally like the sense of humour behind it. As mentioned most apples fans have a sense of humour failure when anything bad is mentioned about the brand, no matter how true.

Sure you dont want it tarnishing your product but at least investigate/recall/admit there might be a problem. The latter is one thing apple doesn't like to do, mainly at the expense of its customers. Get in there EU!

Marty_J

kwikbreaks wrote: »

As an aside suggesting the non user replaceable battery is to reduce the thickness of the iphone is pretty ludicrous and I suspect a different motive - most Apple kit is difficult to get into - my own Mac mini certainly isn't easily user upgradable.

Your Mac Mini is difficult to get into because it is so small. Once you get the top cover off, which is pretty easy once you've done it a few times (it takes a slightly worrying amount of force), it's just a matter of disconnecting a little cable and removing a few screws.

A Mac Pro is ludicrously easy to open up; all the internals are on rails that slide out. They're enormous though; bigger things are just easier to mess with than smaller things.

jmc160 wrote: »

Sorry, but I don't agree with this. My wife has an iPhone and it is indeed a fantastic bit of kit (so much so I may get one too when my current contract runs out), but I have a Samsung Omnia, it has the same storage capacity, actually it has more thanks to the MicroSD slot, it has a user-replaceable battery and it's much thinner and lighter than the iPhone.

I'm just gonna have to remain cynical for now and agree with Butterbeanmash on the reasons for sealing it.

I don't know what version of the Omni you have, but the specs I can find say that the iPhone 3G S is actually half a millimetre thinner and 11g lighter, so I suspect there's not as much in it as you think.

Regardless, my point wasn't "look at how thin the iPhone is". All I was saying was that the iPhone would be thicker than it currently is if it had a removable battery. Having a case that can be opened and a battery compartment with a removable battery increases the size of a device.

Would it be better if Apple put functionality before design and put in a removable battery? Perhaps it would. But I don't think Apple have a battery replacement racket going. Apple release a new version every year, so most people don't own one long enough for the battery to become a problem.

asininity

Marty_J wrote: »

Apple release a new version every year, so most people don't own one long enough for the battery to become a problem.

I thought they'd be tied into a 18 month - 2year contract?

Marty_J

asininity wrote: »

I thought they'd be tied into a 18 month - 2year contract?

People often upgrade their handsets though, before their contract runs out.

asininity

True true.

jmc160

Marty_J wrote: »

I don't know what version of the Omni you have, but the specs I can find say that the iPhone 3G S is actually half a millimetre thinner and 11g lighter, so I suspect there's not as much in it as you think.

Hmmm, I've just re-compared the two and you might be right! My perception must be worse than I thought :eek: Maybe it's the curved back on the iPhone throwing my judgment off.. Ah well, I'm happy to stand corrected (although the Omnia is definitely narrower

Would it be better if Apple put functionality before design and put in a removable battery?

Yes! I find the MacBook Air vulgar and am shocked anyone would fork out that much money for one. But maybe that discussion's for another topic...

Is the 3GS any bigger/heavier than the 3G?

RobertoMoir

cyberbob wrote: »

I find threads like this pretty stupid and petty. You have a bee in your bonnet against apple. Thats your perogative. Apple doesnt really need your custom anyway. So as far as I understand it you have started this thread as an excuse so you can have another anti-apple rant.

If you know an idiotic troll is doing some idiotic trolling then why do you give it the attention it wants anyway?

BikerEd

markymoo wrote: »

my iPhone is very thin... i have a case on it to protect it from getting scratched.... this added only 1mm to the thickness, so there are options=

1mm? Heretic! Burn the witch. Add a whole 1mm to my shiny precious? Never....

Seriously though, batteries sometimes get hot. So do chargers, especially when wires going into connectors to transformers chafe. Things that get hot sometimes catch fire. Murphy's law states that if something can go wrong it will. Apple is no more immune to this than any other gizmo manufacturer. What helps to differentiate one company from another is how quickly and fuss-free they solve the problem. I've had problems with my Apple laptop and they have been sorted within hours or even minutes. Ditto my Dell laptop. My Toshiba was a complete nightmare and that company is full of complete cocks IMHO. But all three had hardware problems - brown smelly stuff happens.

Millionaire

jmc160 wrote: »

. Ah well, I'm happy to stand corrected (although the Omnia is definitely narrower

That's because it has a smaller screen;)

jmc160 wrote: »

Is the 3GS any bigger/heavier than the 3G?

The 3GS weighs 2grams heavier than the 3G.

I actually have the 3GS and love it, and I like the slightly weighted feel to the phone than some others that feel so light and tacky. Personal pref I suppose.