Money Moral Dilemma: Would you park free if it blocked wheelchair access?

Bionic

On a separate note is it illegal to park in a disabled space on private land eg a supermarket carpark or just inconsiderate?
I block them in, leave a camcorder in my car facing their car if Im in a hurry or just sit nearby when Im not.[/QUOTE]

Sadly not illegal under the law of the land - but I believe that penalties can be imposed by the land owner if they wish in the same way that they can issue fines for unauthorised parking?

mikki-b

Just NO, its just WRONG.
I've always felt this, but recently my brother in law has had his foot taken off and is in a wheel chair. My sister has had to get a car she can fit the wheelchair in, and has the signs in to leave space behind. When my brother in law isn't in the car, she certainly doesn't use disabled spaces.
Any one who is irresponsible and inconsiderate enough to think that this is acceptable behavior should be made to go a week in a wheelchair, and see if they still think its OK after that.

Rachel021967

I don't know why we are having this debate. It's just wrong. Park elsewhere.

Magic-Ian

ab48uk wrote: »

To not leave that 6ft space would be thoughtless, ignorant and selfish.

I'm Blue Badge holder, needed because following a serious accident I only have one arm and one leg. Mostly I don't need to use my wheelchair as I can walk short distances on my artificial leg.

In my experience, at least half of any batch of disabled spaces will be occupied by cars not displaying a Blue Badge. I've printed up some business card size messages - polite but firm - which I leave on their windscreens.

I've only got up the nerve to speak to one of them. A 4x4 (sorry but they are especially guilty) drew up beside me in the one remaining disabled space. He gave me 'I'll only be here for five minutes' response. How is a genuine disabled driver supposed to know that? "Don't worry about it" he said.

As others have said, supermarkets mostly don't seem to want to deal with this. Yet it would be easy for one of their trolley collectors to compile a list of offenders. Their registration numbers should be read out over the PA system - 10 minutes to move, or a £50 fine.

:T:T:T That is my experience. Half diasbled bays are taken up by lazy ignorant B's and the managers couldn't care less.

YANA

storemanj wrote: »

yes, as has been said already, he/ her only has to pull out to gain all the space they need, i know as i am disabled and had to do it my self, a small inconvenience only.

Be aware though that some gain access to drive from the rear, it's then not possible. You can't always judge others by your own needs and wants.

Magic-Ian

puddings wrote: »

Well Ian, nothing annoys me more than people like you that jump into arguments swearing and cursing without even understading what is being discused.

Does your disability prevent you from reading? Who is talking about parking in disabled bays? The dilemma is about parking or not parking in a normal space behind a vehicle asking for an extra six foot of space.

The question basically is... Does a disabled driver have the right to take up an extra normal parking space?

I was responding to what others were saying about parking. You have jumped in but have not said what you would do. So if you have managed to read the question you have not answered.

dawnypop

alanbradley wrote: »

I would definitely not park my 4x4 there. :rolleyes:

I have a disabled bay marked outside my house, I live on my own and getting even the distance from outside my house to inside can be agony. Yet I have a 4x4 that seems to think it belongs it the disabled bay because it's slightly bigger than the other bays on the street! Grrrrrrr. It makes me want to put the man that parks it there in as much pain as I am!

I'm also one of those that suffered a bad accident and suddenly had my mobility snatched away. The different in the way people treat you is immense. The number of people that stare as you is the most surprising thing, and the number of people that walk past and feel the need to say "rather you than me, love"... Yes, clearly. I'd rather it was you, but there's no need to rub it in now.

Magic-Ian

pennypinchUK wrote: »

Far too easy this week, Martin!

No, no and no again.

What bugs me are the very able bodied people who borrow their disabled friend's parking permit so they can get free parking for themselves. Or able bodied people who wangle a parking permit by giving a sob story to their doctor, so they can get their own. I've seen too many people, too many times, hop out of their so called disability car when clearly they are perfectly capable of walking any reasonable distance like others.

Getting a blue badge is not like getting a sick note. You cannot get one just on the say so of a GP. You have forms to fill in and normally have to go in front of a panel before you get one. I agree with the first part of your statement but just because you cannot see a disibility does not mean there is not one. However I applaud the rest of your statement.

Bionic

Originally Posted by puddings
Well Ian, nothing annoys me more than people like you that jump into arguments swearing and cursing without even understading what is being discused.

Does your disability prevent you from reading? Who is talking about parking in disabled bays? The dilemma is about parking or not parking in a normal space behind a vehicle asking for an extra six foot of space.

The question basically is... Does a disabled driver have the right to take up an extra normal parking space?

Magic-Ian wrote: »

I was responding to what others were saying about parking. You have jumped in but have not said what you would do. So if you have managed to read the question you have not answered.

Actually Puddings the original question made no mention of parking in ordinary parking spaces - perhaps you should read more carefully?

gardengirl_3

Absolutely not. You obviously have never had the responsibility of a seriously disabled person, or appreciated the effort involved in getting them from A to B. There are just too many selfish people about. Like those who park in the disabled spaces or family spaces at the supermarket. Have we forgotten how to care for the community?