Migrant workers face rental block

chewmylegoff

Generali wrote: »

What about to someone who might sod off back to Clapham? I don't really see the difference TBH.

once you had left, why on earth would you return to clapham. unless you had moved to streatham or brixton, of course.

bo_drinker

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1858459

The_White_Horse

ILW wrote: »

This is nothing to do with racism.
Its about dealing with foreign nationals who are very difficult to get meaningful references from. Matters not a jot what their race is.
I belive Polish is a nationality not a race.

of course it is.

anyway, in this instance the Landlords are right. why should they be forced to rent out their property to someone they might find difficult to chase if they default?

this is what the banks do (or should have been doing) when giving out loans.

chucknorris

I think this is one of the reasons that I currently have 2 properties rented to eastern Europeans as I rent directly to tenants rather than using an agent, they probably seek out private landlords after poor experiences with agents. In any case agents just seem to complicate matters and add additional expense to both landlord and tenant

carolt

The_White_Horse wrote: »

of course it is.

anyway, in this instance the Landlords are right. why should they be forced to rent out their property to someone they might find difficult to chase if they default?

this is what the banks do (or should have been doing) when giving out loans.

Er...because it's illegal?

bo_drinker

I t y f they seek private landlords after they have milked the E A's. They sub let and overcrowd the houses to be able to keep the ind rents to a minimum and spend as little as possible in the local economy so as to be able to send/ take more home. A large percent of these people have done us no favours at all. But we have employed, housed and they used the NHS if needed. The racist card is dealt too easily here they are treated like this for a reason.( don't forget many are gypsies at the end of the day) Many have gone back and many of those who are left are struggling to earn in an economy that is on it's ar5e !!!!!!. See the link I posted.

neas

chucknorris wrote: »

The difference is that someone sodding off back to Clapham would still care about having a CCJ to their name, whereas it probably would not have any effect to their life back in Poland.

That said I have two properties rented to eastern Europeans and I get on with them fine, one has been there for 3 years and the other over 2 years. My experience with both them and previous Poles has been very positive, the Poles even decorated the flat and were suprised when I re-imbursed them for the paint/rollers/brushes (and they did ask me first if it was ok to decorate).

I think its like all other people , mixed bag. there are some who have come here to be a bit 'criminal'... my wifes polish and she even admits it. Large majority of uneducated or low-educated polish come here because it was better than not having a job in poland... the educated, uni graduates etc stayed in poland as they could secure a job... and infact it got better for them that the rest left.

Our friends (Polish family) who are on the poverty line, cleaned the carpets, repainted the ceiling (after it flooded from above)... all without asking for anything... they have a different attitude to rentals than we do i think.

As I'm married to a lovely polish girl I must say am biased and dislike when people discriminate or even ask if someone is polish... its like they are singling you out. It is hard being different, even if your accent is different, people talk about you behind your back... even just to say 'is she polish/foreign' etc.... its a bit unnerving. Also noticed that when people realise she is Polish they change how they treat her (she has great english so its difficult to tell...and ofc Im english).

chucknorris

neas wrote: »

I think its like all other people , mixed bag. there are some who have come here to be a bit 'criminal'... my wifes polish and she even admits it. Large majority of uneducated or low-educated polish come here because it was better than not having a job in poland... the educated, uni graduates etc stayed in poland as they could secure a job... and infact it got better for them that the rest left.

Our friends (Polish family) who are on the poverty line, cleaned the carpets, repainted the ceiling (after it flooded from above)... all without asking for anything... they have a different attitude to rentals than we do i think.

As I'm married to a lovely polish girl I must say am biased and dislike when people discriminate or even ask if someone is polish... its like they are singling you out. It is hard being different, even if your accent is different, people talk about you behind your back... even just to say 'is she polish/foreign' etc.... its a bit unnerving. Also noticed that when people realise she is Polish they change how they treat her (she has great english so its difficult to tell...and ofc Im english).

Totally agree, afterall who on here would claim that all Brits are totally honest?

My first Polish tenants wanted me to visit them once a month to discuss the flat over a cup of coffee, when I said because I lived a 2 hour round trip away it wasn't really practicle she said " So that's it then we will never see you again until we move out" Which I thought was amusing but appreciate the fact they thgey really cared out the property.

bo_drinker

The large majority of uneducated Polish came here to do the jobs our layabout scum would not do. The real problem lies with this going on and not with whoever turns up to do these jobs. Our idle work shy lot should have been made to do these jobs in the first place, but a life on benefits is what they want, so the gap is there. Many have returned and now the !!!!!! is hitting the fan.

carolt

That's true. Though to be fair, lot of educated Polish people came here too and were prepared to take the more menial jobs that any educated native here would never dream of doing - I've met Polish people with masters degrees working as cleaners and bar staff, for example.