We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Online banking gives too much priority to "Available" instead of "Actual" balance IMO

13

Comments

  • gt94sss2
    gt94sss2 Posts: 6,421 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Framps wrote: »
    I'm with HSBC and they only show you one balance online... I ended up transferring 10k out of my current a/c and into savings, only to get an overdraft fee later on as the credit was an uncleared cheque.

    HSBC actually show the following on Internet Banking for each account (at least for me - so I suspect for everyone else!)

    Balance
    Available Balance
    As At date/time
    Overdraft Limit

    Regards
    Sunil
  • rb10
    rb10 Posts: 6,334 Forumite
    oxenryd wrote: »
    The next thing will be that banks should show your balance in red if it's overdrawn or black if in credit.

    This is what Halifax online banking shows already.
  • vet8
    vet8 Posts: 877 Forumite
    thats what the available balance is for

    I must say that Lloyds, who we use for our business account have recently introduced a second figure of "available balance", but this has only happened in the past few months, previously you had to guess how much of your balance was actually available to you and how much had not cleared yet.
  • oxenryd
    oxenryd Posts: 478 Forumite
    djm1972 wrote: »
    Not everyone has time/can be bothered to read the whole screen - they just home in on where they are guided to; but actually, that's a really good idea - only i've not been overdrawn since using online banking so I don't know if they (NatWest or Cahoot) don't do that already...!


    Glad you like my idea, but I was being sarcastic ...............
    Originally Posted by Dr Cuckoo3
    Your bank and bank card does say something about the kind of person you are: Big 4 banks=sheep;),Santander=someone who doesnt mind incompetence:p,COOP=Ethical views,a campaigner:cool:,First Direct/Coventry=someone who thinks they are better than others:o,NI Bank card when living on the mainland=Aspergers :D
  • gordikin
    gordikin Posts: 4,422 Forumite
    vet8 wrote: »
    I must say that Lloyds, who we use for our business account have recently introduced a second figure of "available balance", but this has only happened in the past few months, previously you had to guess how much of your balance was actually available to you and how much had not cleared yet.

    Why did you have to guess? You must have known the amount paid in and the amount going out so why did you not know!
  • vet8
    vet8 Posts: 877 Forumite
    It's obvious I would have thought!!

    I had paid in several cheques on different days and some money arrived by BACs. It said I had £1,000 odd in the account.

    Right. I'll move £600 - insufficient funds, £500 - insufficient funds, £400 etc etc. The online statement showed all the money as being there and the balance said I had £1000, but most of it had not cleared so I had to guess which ones had and how much I could actually transfer.

    Showing how much money you really have available now is a massive improvement.
  • amyjayne27
    amyjayne27 Posts: 561 Forumite
    gt94sss2 wrote: »
    HSBC actually show the following on Internet Banking for each account (at least for me - so I suspect for everyone else!)

    Balance
    Available Balance
    As At date/time
    Overdraft Limit

    Regards
    Sunil

    My HSBC account doesnt show my available balance, it shows what I have exluding anything I have put on my card on the past couple of days so if I have say £1000 then I spend £35 here and £40 there, it will still say I have £1000 for about 3 days.
    Oct wins - years supply of wine!!:D day spa pass for 2:D Personalised wispa bar :D dj yoda tickets:D
    Nov wins - weekend in london to see basement jaxx :D Baileys ice-cream set :D
    Dec wins - set of nail varnishes :D
    Jan wins - Gold radio christmas hamper :D dove gift pack :D creme egg beach ball :D
  • Biggles
    Biggles Posts: 8,209 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    I had no real problem with LTSB showing the 'Available balance' as inclusive of my overdraft when that was £5,000.

    Since harder times have arrived (for LTSB, not me!), my overdraft is a fiddly £1,450, which means I have to do a quick bit of mental arithmetic each time I log in before I know exactly how much is really 'available'. Not hard, but annoying.
  • frugallass
    frugallass Posts: 2,320 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    A & L online banking took me some time to get used to it - I now keep all my transactions on a spreadsheet and have a formula that calculates the difference between my current and my available balance, and I know to take the overdraft into account too.
  • gt94sss2
    gt94sss2 Posts: 6,421 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    amyjayne27 wrote: »
    My HSBC account doesnt show my available balance, it shows what I have exluding anything I have put on my card on the past couple of days so if I have say £1000 then I spend £35 here and £40 there, it will still say I have £1000 for about 3 days.

    Do you have a ' Show/Hide account information' option on your 'recent transactions' page? (near the top - under the account number/sort code)

    Regards
    Sunil
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354.6K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.5K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.5K Spending & Discounts
  • 247.5K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 604.4K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.6K Life & Family
  • 261.9K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.