What does 15% of my salary pay for?

chriszzz

Hey cmon!! were goin all over the place with this, at the end of the day we have to think of the child/ren. Fathers cant really expect the mother to either stay at home or go to work and pay everything for their child/ren, lets be reasonable!!

We also dont want to make the genuine fathers a money figure, we all no there is good/bad mothers and fathers.

Every father has a responsibility emotionally and financially to there children, as does the mother!! fathers seem to be obsessed with what the mother is spending the maintenance on and does it really matter??

The important thing that parents seem to forget is that there is child/ren caught up in there parents fighting over how much is on there heads!! God how wrong have we got it?? Money does help but does not compare the love two parents should show to there children and make them feel that they are worth more than money.

CSA is never gonna go away!! Enjoy your child/ren there worth it!!

Dancing_Shoes

I gather from this thread that the csa don't take into account if the pwc has a large income??? That is disgraceful!

At the end of the day it needs to be fair on both sides, the pwc needs enough to go towards "half" of the costs of raising a child as they are also "half" liable but surely people who do well in thier careers etc are being punished for earning more money?

PlayingHardball

Dancing_Shoes wrote: »

I gather from this thread that the csa don't take into account if the pwc has a large income??? That is disgraceful!

At the end of the day it needs to be fair on both sides, the pwc needs enough to go towards "half" of the costs of raising a child as they are also "half" liable but surely people who do well in thier careers etc are being punished for earning more money?

Dancing shoes, I believe 15% of a NRP income is fair, regardless of other circumstance. No, it is not disgraceful, any person that fathers/mothers a child should be responsible regardless of how their ex partner can cope with the costs of raising their child.

DUTR

chriszzz wrote: »

Every father has a responsibility emotionally and financially to there children, as does the mother!! fathers seem to be obsessed with what the mother is spending the maintenance on and does it really matter??



CSA is never gonna go away!! Enjoy your child/ren there worth it!!

I disagree, it does matter if the money is not going where it should do, I don't think NRPs are obsessed with how the money is spent and I don't think the CSA will be around for ever, with pensions failing and people having to work longer , I think over the years the scheme will not be desired by both parties in the long run.

Gorgeous_George

It would be fair if custody was fairly decided. Where both parents are considered fitting parents and the child shows no preference, it should be decided by the toss of a coin. Instead we have a situation where [strike]a woman can abort a father's unborn child or choose to have the child but not the father[/strike] custody defaults to the mother.

Damn that cheap red wine!

GG

delain

Gorgeous_George wrote: »

It would be fair if custody was fairly decided. Where both parents are considered fitting parents and the child shows no preference, it should be decided by the toss of a coin. Instead we have a situation where [strike]a woman can abort a father's unborn child or choose to have the child but not the father[/strike] custody defaults to the mother.

Damn that cheap red wine!

GG

These days custody (or residency, as it is now known) does not default to the mother. I should know, i did all this 4 years ago!

I had to put up with shared care order for a year until my DD's dad slipped enough for me to be able to finally get them in stable home with me where they belong!

GavB79

chriszzz wrote: »

Hi,
I believe that fathers do have a finacial responsibility to help raise their own children but i also believe this country havent got a clue how to work it out.
I do believe men have a rough time when they split, but they should always pay for their children, the country need to get it right and get it fair.

chriszzz wrote: »

Fathers cant really expect the mother to either stay at home or go to work and pay everything for their child/ren, lets be reasonable!!
We also dont want to make the genuine fathers a money figure, we all no there is good/bad mothers and fathers.
Every father has a responsibility emotionally and financially to there children, as does the mother!! fathers seem to be obsessed with what the mother is spending the maintenance on and does it really matter??

It's not always the father that is the absent parent

i_hate_the_csa

PlayingHardball wrote: »

Dancing shoes, I believe 15% of a NRP income is fair, regardless of other circumstance. No, it is not disgraceful, any person that fathers/mothers a child should be responsible regardless of how their ex partner can cope with the costs of raising their child.

If 15% is a fair amount then why are there thousands of us paying 30%+ still?

Will the ex come to a private agreement?No,because she can use the csa to get far more.I dont have a problem supporting my son.That has never been a issue.But when i pay 30%+ and the ex's husband pays 15% for his child the double standards just make you laugh.I end up keeping my son and his child in the end.

Little wonder she wants to "keep things as they are" !!

chriszzz

GavB79 wrote: »

It's not always the father that is the absent parent

I know its not only fathers who are absent parents!! Mothers who are absent should be treated no differently!!

Gorgeous_George

i_hate_the_csa wrote: »

If 15% is a fair amount then why are there thousands of us paying 30%+ still?

Crikey!

And some people believe bank charges might be unfair.



GG